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'Tina Marie' rose Reviews & Comments
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Tina Marie is a WHITE sport of Grandmother's Hat, discovered and registered by Vintage Gardens.
The rose discovered by Tom Liggett is Larry Daniels, and it is light pink.
I grow both, and they are not identical.
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Jeri,
Just to confirm - so you're saying we should remove Larry as discoverer for this rose.
Thanks.
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Yes indeed! This rose was discovered at Vintage Gardens by Gregg and Phillip.
They propagated and registered it.
We're among the few who have it, because they've lost it.
But it is planted at the Sacramento City Cemetery, right across from Grandmother's Hat, where it is white, to GH's pink.
VERY different roses, if only different in bloom color.
:-)
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Remove Larry? I don't understand.
But FWIW -- growing them in the same area in my garden, 'Tina Marie' and 'Larry Daniels' are NOT the same rose.
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I think the poster confused "Larry" with the discoverer instead of the rose name.Also, please see Anita's post dated July 3, apparently 2007, in the next thread below this one on the rose page for Tina Marie. She reports that Vintage did not discover it, and that they didn't claim to. Mel verified it in the post above hers.
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Tina Marie was not discovered by Phillip Robinson. We received this at Vintage Gardens from the San Jose Heritage Rose Garden; I think Mel Hulse can shed light on its origin.
Gregg Lowery
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Tina Marie was one of the roses originally planted in the San Jose Heritage Rose Garden. Unfortunately, I no longer have a reference as to where we got it beyond it having been grown for the Heritage by Tom Liggett. As Tom is a great fan of Grandmother's Hat with a several in his home garden and as Grandmother's.Hat frequently puts out color sports, It is possible the he discovered it.
Mel Hulse
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Tom Liggett has confirmed that he discovered and named Tina Marie. Please correct the HMF listing accordingly. It was not discovered by Gregg Lowery and Phillip Robinson, and Gregg does not claim that it was his discovery in the comments above. Thanks!
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Hello Anita,
Corrected. I have used the same discovery date, 1998, as we had previously.
I wonder if we should merge ‘Tina Marie’ with ‘Larry Daniels’ 1995. Both are sports of ‘Grandmother’s Hat’ and both were discovered by Tom Liggett. It seems the sport is quite variable in colour.
My regards.
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Thanks Patricia. No, they are distinct. Larry Daniels is different in color. Grandmother's Hat sports readily - I have seen a pale colored version in a neighbor's garden.
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OK. I read the Members Comments in both roses’ pages and got the impression that they are not distinct. Jill seemed to think they were probably the same. There seems to be variability in the colour in the photos.
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In our garden, 'Tina Marie' and 'Larry Daniels' were a quite different color tone.
L.D. only once produced a white bloom, and NEVER produced multiple shades on a bloom, which 'Tina Marie' does FREQUENTLY. I think it would be a mistake to equate them.
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I must recamp on my first comment. We did not receive Tina Marie, but from Barbara Worl, who was the original source for Grandmother's Hat. I do not know how Barbara came by this.
Gregg Lowery
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