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Discussion id : 127-036
most recent 15 APR 21 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 15 APR 21 by drossb1986
Today I received an own-root Fashion from Roses Unlimited. It had a spray of flowers on it, and I'm already smitten. I LOVE the color. And...let me tell you...it smells so good! If it grows as well as everyone says it does, this one is going to be a total winner. I'm excited to see how it does!
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Discussion id : 112-547
most recent 7 AUG 18 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 7 AUG 18 by viscount89
FASHION is a wonderful rose! It is truly is a classic. The form, substance and color are just FINE. Here in Atlanta is is extremely disease resistant and quick to repeat. It needs full sun and don't crowd it! With proper circulation, it does just fine with minimal spraying. It is a handsome plant and it SHOULD still be readily available given its importance to the floribunda class. Fashion and Vogue are 2 of the best floribundas EVER. These are FINE roses that should always be available and preserved and used in the modern garden landscape.
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Discussion id : 71-865
most recent 26 MAY 13 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 24 MAY 13 by goncmg
How this one is not SOMEHOW available other than specialty nurseries is beyond me. 63 years ago this one was a sensation, it nearly created the FL class, the color (which has that odd "glow" of the pernetianas) was literally translated into CLOTHING and HOME TEXTILES by fashion houses in the 50's (an old ARS annual of mine has an article where a woman wrote that she had her sofa and chairs reupholstered in "Fashion" peach).....................it is a low growing shrub, seems it would translate to what is considered "fashion" NOW other than it would need a little disease control. Roses are not anything what they used to be. No more ads for "Spartan" in the "Saturday Evening Post," nobody is (for sure!) getting their davenport (!) reupholstered in "Knock Out" garish magenta................this one is hugely important as a parent and as an example of just how in FASHION and in VOGUE (!) roses used to be in the US.......................
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Reply #1 of 7 posted 24 MAY 13 by Kim Rupert
Read Papa Floribunda - The Gene Boerner Story for a full account of the introduction of Fashion. Neiman Marcus in Dallas, IIRC, was used to make an enormous introduction. Something like 500 potted bud and bloom Fashion roses were used. Major appliances, household goods, linens, upholstered furniture, cosmetics, ladies fashions (including shoes and handbags), literally anything and everything which could be made the color of the rose, was for sale. Hourly fashion shows were held in the store. It was the first major, full blown introduction of a rose in US history.

Fashion is a beautiful flower, but that plant! Where rust is an issue, Fashion searches for its own, special brand! Mildew is also a major issue. It CAN be a spectacular looking flower, but that plant belongs in a museum for mid century roses. It just doesn't have the vigor nor quality of foliage and growth to look right among recent introductions.
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Reply #2 of 7 posted 24 MAY 13 by goncmg
Kim! I have that book and I love it and when I posted last night I was drawing on that but was too tired after work to get into my books to find the reference! I remembered the fashion show in Fashion coral and almost quoted it but again was too tired and lazy, lol! Me, Mr. Mid Century, DOES sort of like the idea of a Fashion w/d set or Fashion dishwasher! Yeah, it sure was different back then! :-)
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Reply #3 of 7 posted 24 MAY 13 by Kim Rupert
In some ways, it was. Marketing like that was brand new. Gene Boerner and J&P pioneered product tie-ins, starting with Ma Perkins. They would have never dreamed of the candy apple red and blue appliances we can buy now! Plain old stainless steel? Oh, no! Those would have been seen as too "industrial" and ugly for a mid century turquoise kitchen! I lived with one of those, and chocolate brown, and "Harvest Gold", talk about ugly!
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Reply #4 of 7 posted 25 MAY 13 by goncmg
Oh Kim, you are going to mock me for this, but somehow a few months ago I dredged up the old comedy series from the 1950's "I Married Joan." And in one random episode she mentions going to her rose garden to do whatever (so zany!) and the episode was dated 1953 so I, OF COURSE, was all "OMG! What plants WOULD that character have had?" She was a judges wife. So yeah, in 1953 and in Southern Cal she sure DID have a rose garden! And I thought FASHION! And then also probably most of the "recent" AARS winners like Capistrano and Taffeta and maybe an Apricot Queen and so on................and better (or worse?) for the next few weeks I kept thinking of old TV shows and what roses they would have had. Yeah, "Samantha" on "Bewitched" would have for sure HAD "Bewitched" and probably Garden Party and for sure Peace and maybe Pink Parfait or Granada. "Carol Brady," so neat and tidy, oh she was probably all about the "Talk" series of Floribundas, lol..............those swingers on "Knot's Landing" for SURE had a few Color Magics around the pools...................

I couldn't resist. The mention of the colors was too much! I remember being 7 or 10 and laying belly-down in the 3 or 4 or 10 inch flame orange shag carpet we had in Chico, staring over the J&P catalog. I can see FUTURA, SUMMERWINE, GOLDEN GATE, FABERGE, MERCI, NEW DAY, PRISTINE and more oh so clearly. TAMPICO! PATRICIAN! And we had dark cabinets with some faux MEXICANA motif on them, lol lol lol...................
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Reply #5 of 7 posted 25 MAY 13 by Kim Rupert
Nah, I'm not going to mock you for that! I've collected older moderns of various periods for similar reasons. I grew the popular ones from my parents' birth years as well as those of my siblings' and mine. I grew several from the year my parents were married and I have often deliberately gone to observe those which were popular at various other important times just to see where we were, so I'd have a better idea of where we could go. It's history, like any other study of the past, and you can't have a good idea of where we NEED to go, if you don't know where we have been. You can't know what is new if you haven't observed what is old. BTW, I think we all had that orange shag carpet (or something similarly vulgar). Try avocado green! LOL!
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Reply #6 of 7 posted 25 MAY 13 by goncmg
I can so see the dark-shingled avocado ranch house, the faux diamond pane window in the front door. Out back a prized new bed of Angel Face, Pascali, Comanche, Miss All American Beauty, Scarlet Knight, Gay Princess, American Heritage..........the teenage kid is listening to "Sugar, Sugar" by The Archies, the parents (Mom with a thick, wide headband and in a shift dress) are watching the moon landing..............some of those Miss AAB's and Pascali's may be sitting right on top of that console television set................
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Reply #7 of 7 posted 26 MAY 13 by goncmg
From the 1953 ARS Annual Proof of Pudding re: Fashion.............................."July Packard had new dining room chairs upholstered to match Fashion so you know how much she likes the color. The buds, like small hybrid teas, are lovely for corsages or boutonnieres. It is good for mass planting and landscape effect. Opinion is divided as to abundance and continuity of bloom; many feel it does not bloom enough for its type and for others the flowers in summer were too few. One reporter likes Donald Prior, Betty Prior and Else Poulsen better; several prefer Vogue, Red Pinocchio and Floradora. Disease resistance is rated average or above by most; it blackspotted badly in Michigan for one person; a few complained of rust and several noted mildew...................."

And yet 196 reporters gave it 9.5!!!!! Which underscores how "forgiving" even saged rosarians can be (let alone the general public) when something truly unique does appear..............First Prize for years could do no wrong and is still rather highly rated despite the fact it falls prey to mildew, is no stranger to blackspot, clusters so often it truly is a GR it really is, and the plant is just downright ugly: thorny, angular, sparsely foliaged, prone to grow lopsided................but the SIZE just stopped everyone in their tracks and the fact these huge beauties, be they in a cluster or not, most always are gorgeously formed just had the exhibiton crazed 70's in a love fool dither......................

Knock Out is revolutionary. It is. But does anyone REALLY love that color???? Because thousands of seedlings get culled every year for being single let alone garish red-magenta............for all we know, someone around 1974 may have had something very close to Knock Out and culled it. Last year someone may have created something like First Prize but maybe in another color. And culled it.
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Discussion id : 34-447
most recent 3 MAR 09 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 3 MAR 09 by Jeff Britt
It is hard to imagine modern floribunda roses without Fashion. Except for its parent, Pinocchio, I don't think there can be any more influential parent than Fashion. Almost every rose of merit or importance can trace itself back to Fashion and hence to Pinocchio. This is not to ignore Fashion's other parent, Crimson Glory. It is central to the development of all the great red, and many of the other colored hybrid teas, as well as the many of the red floribundas through Independence. It just amazes me that so few plants have had such an disproportionate influence on the development modern hybrids.
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