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9 MAR 08 by
Pat W
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There is a new line of Kordes Roses being offered by Palatine and Northland Rosarium. These roses are not listed anywhere. Not on Koreds website, help me find, google, ect. In conversations with both nurseries neither can supply plant info. Carol at Northland contacted her suppier who was unable to help. Carol was kind enough to offer 4 Flower Circus varieties free of charge as test plants to gather information on them. I was curious about diease resistance, possible balling of many petaled rose, ect. The only info found was that a sister company in USA working with Kordes may be growing them for release in states to compete with Radlers Knock Outs ect. Would anyone know of these roses. Thankyou so much Pat W
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#1 of 2 posted
9 MAR 08 by
 Cass
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Hi, Pat W.
Flower Circus Roses can be viewed on the Kordes Rosen website in German. There are about 25 varieties. They are not Standard roses, however. This is the Kordes line of patio roses for growing in pots. I'm not sure they compete with Knock Out. They are described as "vigorous" and "compact" and are shown growing in about 7 gallon containers.
They will be added to HMF in the next day or so. Thanks for pointing them out!
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#2 of 2 posted
12 MAY 21 by
amc439
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I ordered this rose two years ago and I could not be more pleased. It has a wonderfully fruity fragrance, It is beautiful both at exhibition stage and when it is fully open. The petals are of particularly good substance. This rose looks particularly vibrant floated in a black glazed bowl (two years ago she received a blue in that particular class)
I grow it in Minnesota (edge of zone 4 / 3), on its own root in a 14" square "ornimental" plastic pot, where it seems quite happy. I overwinter my tender roses in an insulated shed which was supposed to be kept between 34 and 38 degrees by an agricultural thermostatically controlled electric heater, but last winter the heater failed and the shed reached a low of -15F on a morning where we had -25 ambient. She came out of the shed with only minor damage and has recovered beautifully, so I would disagree with the assessment of her cold hardiness.
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#1 of 5 posted
21 FEB 08 by
Unregistered Guest
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Where did you get Rosemary Harkness on its own root? I prefer own root, when possible.
Thanks!
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#2 of 5 posted
31 MAR 08 by
Pat W
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HeirloomRoses.com carries this rose own root. They list it under English Legend Roses.
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Roses Unlimited also carries this rose for sale own root.
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The ARS Encyclopedia of Roses (2003) lists Rosemary Harkness as hardy to zone 5.
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#5 of 5 posted
27 FEB 13 by
jedmar
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Every rose book that mentions this rose just raves over it. This is the only Kordes rose that seems to refuse to grow for me. I'm in Richmond VA in zone 7, and I'm starting to think I just need to get it from a different source and plant it again somewhere else, as it keeps suffering cane dieback where I have it. Dieback is so bad the rose is almost gone and every rose nearby is doing just fine.
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#1 of 3 posted
17 AUG 08 by
Pat W
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Bob, I had the same problem with mine. Would any one know with so much rugosa in it's background, maybe Sparrieshoop resents being sprayed. I have around 300 roses, yes there are some that fail but I never thought I would have trouble with Sparrieshoop.
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I have an organic garden, so Sparrieshoop was never sprayed with anything.
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#3 of 3 posted
11 OCT 12 by
mtspace
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I agree that it seems like this rose should be the sort of thing you plop in the ground and it grows quickly and without much fuss. I believe you'll find it doesn't have much rugosa background, but it does have much rubiginosa (aka eglantine) heritage. I note that the home of its parent Magnifica is Germany which would be a cool summer place. So is England, home of grandparent Lucy Ashton. Maybe this rose covets a bit of pm shade and plenty of mulch to keep the soil cool and moist. Just a thought.
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Ashdown sells a rose called Paul Cezanne (DELarle) "Rose des Cisterciens" the photos are similar on HMF, but it is a different rose...
http://www.ashdownroses.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=802
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#1 of 4 posted
6 JAN 08 by
Cass
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I don't understand, Jean. The Delbard rose, ROSE DES CISTERCIENS/Delarle is being sold under those names, but I don't see it (a) sold as Paul Cezanne or (b) sold by Ashdown.
Here's the page listing the Delbard varieties as Ashdown:
http://www.ashdownroses.com/index.asp?PageAction=Custom&ID=52
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#2 of 4 posted
17 MAR 08 by
Pat W
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Ashdown has this rose in the library section currently not in production but will propagate if requested. Looks the same to me maybe they had the wrong picture before.
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Hey Cass,
It's being sold here in Australia as 'Paul Cezanne' (see: http://www.rankinsdirect.com.au/shop/DelbardFrenchRoses/PaulCezanne.aspx)
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#3 of 4 posted
18 MAR 08 by
jedmar
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The two roses are similar, but not the same. Cisterciens is more pink, Paul Cezanne more yellow. For whatever it is worth, Delbard also describes the fragrances differently.
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