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Discussion id : 167-320
most recent 28 MAY HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 28 MAY by Patricia Routley
The breeder, Mr. C. W. Heyde was President of the National Rose Society of N.S.W. from 1922-1923; 1926-1927; and 1935.
I feel the rose he bred sometime before 1953, 'Captain Watkins', was more likely to have been named after his friend, Captain Arthur Bernard Watkins, who was also President of the National Rose Society of N.S.W. 1933 and 1934.

I have deleted this Note from the ‘Captain Watkins’ page, but record it here.
Frank Vernon Watkins (21 March 1922 – 20 December 1942) was an officer of the Royal New Zealand Air Force (RNZAF) during the Second World War. He was killed in air operations trying to save a close comrade and for this action was recommended for the Victoria Cross. He ultimately received only a posthumous Mention in Despatches
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Discussion id : 106-076
most recent 15 MAY 19 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 19 OCT 17 by Margaret Furness
I've been told that Captain Watkins was an Air Force pilot, who was employed by a tobacco company after WWII.
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 13 MAY 19 by Patricia Routley
Not quite correct Margaret. Captain Watkins died in 1942 when he was 20. It was the breeder who at one time worked for the tobacco company.
I have added a little about Captain Watkins to the main page. My interest was sparked by my new plant of ‘Captain Watkins’ showing colour.
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 15 MAY 19 by Margaret Furness
Urban myth. I'm pleased to be corrected.
A rose is a poor second best compared to a VC.
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Discussion id : 40-941
most recent 4 DEC 09 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 4 DEC 09 by billy teabag
"The rose is clearly Polyantha and attributed to Hazelwood, 1960. Perhaps somebody else can determine if this reference relates to the breeder/raiser, or distributor. Peter Cox (Australian Roses), only gives NSW as the place of origin. Does this refer to Hazelwood Bros. of Epping, New South Wales? Is this rose Australian by birth as claimed?" L. Newman Dec 3 09 ref http://www.helpmefind.com/plant/l.php?l=21.135017

The Hazlewood, 1960 attribution would appear to be an error as the 1958 Hazlewood Nursery (Epping, NSW) catalogue attributes it to Heyde, 1953 (see refs).
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Discussion id : 40-919
most recent 2 DEC 09 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 2 DEC 09 by Laurie Newman
Further to the upload of the image of this rose, I should mention the use by Peter Cox (Australian Roses) of the name "C. W. Heyde" - "We know nothing concerning C. W. Heyde." There is considerable mystery concerning this rose, as Modern Roses 8 (1980) does not mention it, and I would be pretty sure MR10 is likewise. Who has the answers?
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 2 DEC 09 by jedmar
From the "American Rose Annual" 1924, p.118: Mr.C. W. Heyde, President of the National Rose Society of New South Wales...

From the "Argus", Melbourne, January 9, 1945: "Mr. Frank W. Brown....has been appointed...to the Australian Tobacco Board....He replaces Mr. C.W. Heyde, who resigned on his retirement from the service of the British Australasian Tobacco Co."
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 2 DEC 09 by Laurie Newman
Thank you. One down, many to follow?
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