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'Athy369HA' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 167-413
most recent 3 JUN HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 2 JUN by Mike Athy
Pink Eclipse AKA Athy369Ha has two denominations listed. 369HA is not Athycocoha. They are two different varieties. Pink Eclipse, Athy369HA is one variety and Oxford Girl, Athycocoha is an altogether differnt plant.
It would be great if this could be corrected.
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 3 JUN by Patricia Routley
Re Pink Eclipse
Mr Athy - thank you. . I gather the "bred date" was 1995?
I will add: no fragrance and medium green foliage for Pink Eclipse. Are there any other discernable characteristics you would like to add for this rose?
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Discussion id : 167-414
most recent 3 JUN HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 2 JUN by Mike Athy
The variety Oxford Girl has two denominations listed. Oxford Girl is Athycocoha.
Athy369Ha and Pink Eclipse are a different variety altogether and should not be on this page. It would be great if this could be corrected.
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 3 JUN by Patricia Routley
Good to hear from you at last Mr. Athy.
We were mislead by the 2023 Jackson and Perkins reference for Oxford Girl which stated it was variety ATHY369HA.
What "bred date" shall we use for Oxford Girl?
How will the public know which rose they have? Are there discernable differences? I do see strong fragrance, and dark green foliage for Oxford Girl.
Can we add the parentage for Oxford Girl please.
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Discussion id : 156-285
most recent 19 JAN SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 17 DEC by AGBTG
AKA Oxford Girl through Jackson and Perkins.
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Reply #1 of 7 posted 17 DEC by Patricia Routley
Thank you. Oxford Girl added.
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Reply #2 of 7 posted 11 JAN by Hamish Cheetham
Hello, the information here is incorrect. The rose was not introduced by Cool Roses and the parentage is incorrect. Please contact Mike Athy for correct information.
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Reply #3 of 7 posted 11 JAN by jedmar
This is what the ARS registration of 2012 states.
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Reply #4 of 7 posted 15 JAN by Hamish Cheetham
The denomination is incorrect and therefore the parentage and release date.
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Reply #5 of 7 posted 15 JAN by Patricia Routley
Jan 15, 2024. I’ve sent Mike Athy an email.
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Reply #6 of 7 posted 15 JAN by Patricia Routley
Mr. Athy has replied and said:” Oxford Girl is not Athy369Ha so not introduced 2011”.

So I can only presume that there are two roses:
‘Pink Eclipse’ Athy369HA bred in 1995 and introduced by Cool Roses in 2011.
‘Oxford Girl’ Athycocoha. Bred in ….before 2022 and introduced by Jackson and Perkins before ….?2024. (I can find no date on the J&P website)
Both roses have the same characteristics it seems. I would be delighted to correct this file, but I need information on what the roses are, not what they aren’t.
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Reply #7 of 7 posted 19 JAN by Hamish Cheetham
Hi Patricia,
It probably makes sense to create two seperate listings, one for each rose.
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