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'Zitkala' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 7-518
most recent 19 JAN 10 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 28 JAN 05 by WendyinSD
In his 1943 ARS annual article "Getting Rid of Blues and Thorns", Hansen wrote that Zitkala was released in 1942. It is a "hardy, double thornless red rose....the wood is smooth except for some weak bristles and a very few small thorns near the base of the main shoots....Flowers a brilliant velvety red, nearly 3 inches across, with 25 petals. A typical R. blanda plant, of strong upright habit, with red bark. After many years this is the first 'break' away from the light lavender-pink of the wild rose, to get the blue out of the red.
Zitkala is the Teton Sioux Indian word for 'bird'...Pedigree: Rosa blanda (from Bonanza Springs, western Minnesota, on the east shore of Bigstone Lake) x pollen of the Amadis (or Crimson Boursault), an old English rose with deep crimson-purple flowers.
In June, 1942, the original plant of Zitkala bloomed in profusion, with over 250 flowers. No seed hips resulted, so far."
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Reply #1 of 3 posted 29 JAN 05 by RoseBlush
Wendy,

Thank you for posting this information. I have put a comment in the "Notes" section of the main page suggesting users refer to the Q & C tab for more information about the rose.

Smiles,

Lyn
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Reply #2 of 3 posted 7 MAY 06 by sunnysideuphill
Is Zitkala recurrent?  Fragrant?  Thanks. Antonia in NH
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Reply #3 of 3 posted 19 JAN 10 by WendyinSD
No, it isn't recurrent, nor is it particularly fragrant. It does have very dark red thornless (for the most part) canes.
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Discussion id : 12-375
most recent 1 JUN 09 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 24 MAY 06 by WendyinSD
Zitkala is not recurrent and I don't think of it as particularly fragrant. I had to move mine after a tough winter (it had quite a bit of die back and the rabbits like it too).

My winters are usually very windy and dry with unreliable snow cover. This last winter we had temps in the 30 below range and it had no dieback. This might be one of those roses that takes a year or two to really come into its own.

Wendy
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Reply #1 of 3 posted 21 MAY 09 by Cass
Hi, Wendy. Is your Zitkala velvety red? The plant I received has crimson purple flowers.
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Reply #2 of 3 posted 31 MAY 09 by WendyinSD
No, mine certainly isn't "red" in the sense that I think of red (like modern roses are red). Mine is definitely shades of a crimson purple. Do you have a 'Maheca'? Mine is more red than that but still, not a true red by any means.

I asked Paul Olsen about this rose (Suzy Verrier said in her catalog that he helped her i'd the rose) and he said he was 99.9% sure that it was Zitkala, because I was like you...wondering if I had the wrong thing. If I remember right, Suzy found it at a Maryland experiment station and asked Paul to help her figure out what it was.
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Reply #3 of 3 posted 1 JUN 09 by Cass
Thanks, Wendy. I posted the description from the article in the American Rose Annual. That issue (1943) also has a photo which I will scan. The plant it shows is rigidly upright, about chest height. I'm still waiting for upright.
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