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'Marmalade' rose Reviews & Comments
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16 JAN 12 by
 goncmg
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Got an own root band from Vintage last May, was expecting nothing, I love the color and the smell is "light damask" to me, very much like the parent Bewitched. And I love Armstrong roses and grew this in the late 70's/early 80's but it was weak and winter killed 6a with protection.....but I bought one........THE RESULTS HAVE BEEN INCREDIBLE. In ONE SEASON that band is as big as a budded 1st year that I could have bought from a garden center! Threw basals 1/2 inch across or more. 5 feet tall. Had to re-pot it twice and after the second it got a 15 gallon terracotta just like my "big boys" and into the big boy line up it went where it held its own...........could not be happier. The photos on here look EXACTLY like what I have.....it is slightly more pink than the old Armstrong catalog portrayed it to be..........
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Marmalade grew marvelously in my old Newhall garden and was incredibly fragrant. I completely understand why you like this rose. It was very good there.
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#2 of 5 posted
20 MAR 14 by
goncmg
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Kim? Still in love with Marmalade..........2 years since I first posted, my "project" here has grown out of bounds, you KNOW I love orange/or/yellow-or, etc.................bands pretty much DON'T get as big as budded IMHO.....not at all...........I do have 3 subjects where they not only got AS big but BIGGER: Futura, Cherry-Vanilla and MARMALADE..............I coddled them through this insane winter, even in the insulated garage the froze/thawed/froze............due to space and the fact I work so much I need to pare down my project..............if I had to only go with 20????? Marmalade--due to a blessed mix of mental rosy glass retro construct and what seems to have been an insanely viable band-----not only makes the top 20 but it likely is in the top 10....................this is a HAPPY PLANT/VARIETY for me..................one that exceeds what I admit may always have been modest expectations but EXCEEDS.................I give it some "extra" for sure: food, spray, a slap on the fat basal, a kick on the side of the pot..................and it never lets me down.........................MY "short list" will make many saged rosarians reqauire CPR................yes. YES. Marmalade is on the short list for me.
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goncmg, I notice that Vintage shows their Marmalade as VID, also the Futura.
I wonder if your experience with a virus indexed own root Marmalade, that it grew as well or better than a grafted plant, can be taken to support the notion that RMV does cause, or induce, or is often associated with, puny growth of what used to be considered healthy varieties? I have noticed in my project of reading the old American Rose and National Rose Annuals, that gardeners seemed to be growing some roses in colder areas than we would attempt today. Sorry, don't have any examples off the top of my head, but I retain a general impression of New England and Midwest gardeners attempting the latest HTs. I should add that truly heroic efforts for winter protection are also described.
What do you think? Do you look for VID cultivars? And do you think VID cultivars might be more hardy than the virus infected plants?
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#4 of 5 posted
20 MAR 14 by
goncmg
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Nastarana, you bring up an interesting topic. My Marmalade is from Vintage VID as is my Cherry Vanilla---both of these bands quickly grew into plants as big or bigger, probably stronger as well, then any budded rose from any good nursery. My Futura is NOT from Vintage, it is from Rogue Valley so not sure if it is VID but that is my 3rd band out of over 100 which, without a doubt, is better than a budded. That VID----that refers to the mosaic specifically, I think? I so rarely have seen mosaic. I have a dime store body bag Tropicana that has a touch of it but it seems to be doing "average to good?" I have never considered mosaic anything other than a tiny nuisance and no, to date I haven't sought out VID varieties: I want the variety or I don't, etc. Will have to do some more reading on this topic! Thanks for giving me something to look into as winter is easing for us but by no means is spring here......all of mine in the garage survived---I am taking a break from pruning them back as I type this---but I am very lucky as 2 of my friends who also winter theirs in pots lost theirs. And my in-ground bed of Sunsprite appears decimated. Columbus got to -15 with no snow cover and heavy wind, heartbrealking. Park of Roses here still has several decades old beds of abstreuse varieties (Magic Moon, Marmalade Mist, Mme. Chiang Kai Shek)---or possibly "had"-- as the results of this winter remain to be seen.....
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Freedom from RMV can easily result in more vigorous plants. I know mine was not VI, though I don't recall it demonstrating symptoms. Unless a rose is a seedling, produced from a seedling as own root or on VI root stock, or is a treated and "cleaned" plant, I always presume it to be infected. If that plant was infected, it certainly didn't seem to mind it. As long as the growing conditions favor the variety, it hasn't seemed to mean failure with many varities in my conditions. Some, of course, have been awful, but often, I couldn't determine how much of that was due to RMV and how much was due to the rose simply not being overly vigorous own root to begin with. Some just are not decent plants on their own roots. This one WAS!
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19 APR 08 by
Unregistered Guest
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Does anyone have actual experience with Marmalade, particularly whether it is truly fragrant?
Thanks!
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#1 of 1 posted
20 JAN 09 by
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I found this rose to have a very good citrus fragrance that lasts, it isn't as strong as Double Delight, Secret or Crysler Imperial, but it isn't faint. It cuts well and lasts when in a vase. I would catorgorize the fragance as a B if you said Double Delight was an A. The rose has been hardy and done well in a semi coastal climate. I planted this rose in 1978 and it still is blooming and giving off nice sprays of roses.
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