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'Clotilde Soupert, Cl.' rose Reviews & Comments
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I think there's a typo in your earliest reference: I suspect that the year you mean is 1899, not 1889. The Fruitland catalog for 1899 has such a reference on p. 38; previous Fruitland catalogs do not mention 'Climbing Clothilde Soupert' (nor 'Climbing Clotilde Soupert').
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Yes. “Three years ago” and “four years ago” confirm your thought. Thank you Brent. Corrected.
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I got this rose for the wonderful fragrance, but I've grown even more fond of its stems and foliage. I have a new young plant. Even during the summer heat, it was sending out great laterals -- making its claim. I just love the shape of the leaflets. I like Ghislaine de Féligonde for the foliage in the same way, but I like Clotilde's a little more.
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I smelled this rose at the Atlanta Botanical Garden. The fragrance is so wonderful, like strong old rose scent. I was wondering how the fragrance is classified so I can find roses with similar fragrance.
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I have been snipping it's buds for most of this season because of the heat and all of it's new growth, so I can't remember it's smell exactly. It's a very healthy plant for me and continues to try to bloom. But I agree! It smells so good -- like powdery perfume. If I remember correctly, this is one of the roses that somewhat reminds me of some of the perfumed toys I had as a child. I am in Atlanta and like the smell of my Spice rose (more of a passion fruit smell for me). It performs well and blooms a lot. You may also like the smell of Stanwell Perpetual or of albas like Félicité Parmentier. I just put in Maggie which I picked up at Antique Rose Emporium. It smells wonderful, but I don't have a full review of it yet. Most of my roses have fragrance, but I can't remember which ones remind me most of Clothilde's scent. I'll have to think more about it in the Spring. I'm sure there are much more experienced rosarians here who can weigh in.
Also, I just read your listing and see you are in Lawrenceville. As far as disease resistance, black spot can be terrible in my garden. I used Cornell Spray this Spring and sulfur last year, but right now I'm trying only frequent deep waterings (so my roses are less stressed by the heat) and snipping all flower buds, so the plants can focus energy elsewhere. I did let more established plants bloom this Spring. I'm thinking this new strategy is key for my plants because my Golden Celebration had terrible black spot in the past but kept blooming. Talk about a gorgeous fragrance! I loved letting it bloom. But now that I'm not letting it bloom. It's still sending out a lot of growth and has very little black spot. Total difference in health! I will post these findings under that rose once I've observed it a little longer. I'm mentioning it to you now that it might help you .
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21 MAR 23 by
caduceus
The scent of Climbing Clotilde Soupert always reminds me of a fine face powder that my Grandma Jo used in the 1960's. The product was named Cashmere Bouquet. I absolutely love this rose's wonderful fragrance and fascinating blooms.
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American Rose Annual 1920 Fish, A.J. "Growing and Showing Climbing Roses" p. 53
"Climbing Clotilde Soupert, with its hard, globular buds, has to be forced with liquid manure beforehand to get it to open enough to exhibit."
Mr. Fish lived in New Bedford, Mass. Possibly the rose opens better in warmer climates. I suppose the forcing would have been done before picking.
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Thanks Nastarana. Reference added.
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