(2016)
Lan Damask, Gallica.
This rose came in an unusual way to me, as it is a cultivar which was probably originated in Crimea in order to gain rose oil....
Here is the information I later received about this rose:
Lan' (deer) selection nr. 3845.
R. alba L. X Michurenka (R. damascena Mill. X R. gallica L.)
Breeder: Nazarenko, L. G., Grishchenko L. A.
A compact shrub (127 cm tall, up to 145 cm wide), dense foliage, produces many canes. Canes arching, green when one-year old, brown when older.
Large crooked prickles, pink on young shoots, dark brown on older canes. Canes armed weakly (2-3 on a length of 10 cm.
5-7 leaflets, relatively large, elongated, with prominnet tip and .....edges, green above, grey-green below. Leaflets leathery above, slightly pilous, strongly below, especially along the veins. Young foliage has an anthocyane-edge. The main vein is prickly and glandulous below.
Large blooms (3,8g), double (77 petals), pale pink.
Large fruit (15mm diameter, 21.5mm long, 2-2,3 kg per 1000 heps), glabrous, urceolate, glandular at the base. Weak production of fruit in open pollination.
(2016)
Lan......R. alba L X Michurenka (R. damascena Mill. X R. gallica L.)
(20 Feb 2017) Includes photo(s).
Minette. This rose is considered Alba - first of all: I have no idea how one arrives at that conclusion. If everyone is indeed talking about the same rose ...
I received 4 different roses: a "Dornenlose Kreiselrose", an Alba suinoum, a Minette and an unknown found rose. All of these 4 roses turned out to be identical!
I have now decided for myself to call this rose "Minette", but not as Alba. But maybe genetic tests will teach me better ...
Now, what do the proponents of the "turbinata theory" say? Well, of course the calyxes of this rose are almost exactly in the form in which we know today's or maybe yesterday's and the day before yesterday's humming tops. At the time of naming a particular type of rose class or variety as a "Kreiselrose", these tops looked different, however, because they had a constriction and taper conically for being driven with a "whip". Now that the so-called Gallica x francofurtana had this constriction, these forms of the Gallica roses were so named. But Minette is not a gallica rose either, although she likes to produce suckers. It also does have a lot of prickles. This classification is also quite incomprehensible to me!
Alba suionum and Minette are usually already synonymous in Scandinavia with a rose that is usually described as "our" Minette here. But I still hope to find another rose that looks more like Alba under the name suionum, maybe one day ... What or who is this Minette here? So, I don't know! I only know that I recognize it immediately when I see it, because it has foliage that is so well rounded or even fully round, with the end leaflet usually covered by the first two leaflets on the side.
(2016) Includes photo(s).
Raduga, Damask, Gallica. This rose came in an unusual way to me, as it is a cultivar which was probably originated in Crimea in order to gain rose oil....
Here is the information I later received about this rose:
Raduga, (Rainbow)
Selection Nr. 7837
Vesna (R. damascena Mill. X R, gallica subsp. Eryosyla Kell. var. Austriaca Br.) X Krymkaya Krasnaya (R. gallica L.).
Breeder: Nazarenko, L. G., Grishchenko L. A.
Compact bush (100-120 cm tall and up to 140 cm wide), dense foliage, arched canes, green when one-year old, dark brown when older.
Mixed prickles, larger one crooked, smaller ones needle-form, broader at the base, flattened, smooth. Medium density of prickles. Prickles on young shoots pink, on the older, grey.
Leaves with 5-7 leaflets, leaflets relatively broad, slightly elongated with prominent tip, serrated. Dark green above and grey-green below, leathery and glabrous above, slightly hirsute below along the veins. Anthocyane edges on younf foliage. Small resinous glands on the under side of the main vein.
Blooms double, deep pink.
Fruit large (13mm diameter, 21mm long, 1,7-2,2 kg weight per 1000 heps), urceolate, base of the hypantheum slightly glandular. Good producton of fruit in open pollination.
(2016)
Vilena, Damask, Gallica. This rose came in an unusual way to me, as it is a cultivar which was probably originated in Crimea in order to gain rose oil....
Here is the information I later received about this rose:
Vilena (R. damascena Mill. X R. gallica L.)
Selection in the Nikita Botanical garden in 1967.
A moderatley tall shrub (95 cm +/- 9 cm). Mixed prickles on older canes, rather smallish on the younger ones, slightly curved downwards, brownish on older and anthocyan-coloured on younger shoots.
Dark green foliage, ovoid with prominent tip, medium size and density. Serrated edges, often with an anthocyane edge.
Light red blooms, large and medium, double. Dark red, elongated fruit.
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