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This is the same photograph as that labelled 'Mme. Schwaller' in Dingee's 1913 catalogue, page 30.
I've found Dingee's catalogues at that period to be inaccurate with many of their photos labels. For example, the photo for Mme. Melanie Soupert on page 37 of their 1916 spring catalogue also appears as Maman Cochet on page 24 of their autumn catalogue. Also, in the 1916 spring catalogue the same photograph is used for Laurent Carle on page 20 as well as for Papa Gontier on 53.
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Which begs the question: was Charles Dingee ever different from William R Smith? If the company was slipshod, if not worse, in their labelling?
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15 JUN 19 by
 HubertG
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Good question. Dingee & Conard listed both 'Charles Dingee' and 'W.R. Smith' in their catalogues as late as 1932 (as far as I can determine). One might argue that they were the same and to save face, so to speak, the same rose was offered under different names, but that's still a long time to perpetuate a falsehood. They even included photos of 'W.R. Smith' in the same catalogues that promoted 'Charles Dingee' with photographs. They consistently claimed 'Charles Dingee' grew to 2 to 3 feet. And then there is the French catalogue from Bernaix from 1938 listing both roses, and they would not have had any vested interest in promoting a rose such as 'Charles Dingee' were it the same as 'W.R. Smith'. I think Sangerhausen listed both roses too.
Whatever the truth about this rose (or roses) I think that it is a somewhat different matter illustrating catalogues with duplicate photos to selling the rose under a wrong name (which of course still happens). They were a firm with a good name that survived for over eighty years.
I've noticed the earlier Dingee & Conard catalogues seem to be pretty consistent with seemingly correct photographs. It just seems to be this WWI period where it becomes very blatantly obvious that they are duplicating photos.
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There can be some blindness in it. A local nursery trusted their source of Mons. Tillier, and said it grew as a bush; but it was Marie Nabonnand, and it didn't climb in their garden because they pruned it as a bush.
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