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'Cardinal de Richelieu' rose Reviews & Comments
most recent 10 MAR  
Initial post 9 MAR by RoseLover26
Where is the China rose ancestry attributed to? It seems to have all of the characteristics of a typical gallica rose with no traits present from standard China breeding.
Reply #1 posted 10 MAR by jedmar
Several references class this as a Hybrid Gallica, which inherently means a Hybrid Gallica-China. However, we removed the Hybrid China class, in order not to create confusion.
most recent 18 APR 24  
Initial post 15 APR 24 by Bug_girl
This author cites Laffay as the breeder.
Pearson's Encyclopedia of Roses, (1956) pg. 172

Cardinal de Richelieu (R. gallica hybrid)
Rich velvety-purple blooms, large and with plenty of petals. Fragrant. Makes a strong, bushy plant. (Laffay, 1840.)
Reply #1 posted 16 APR 24 by jedmar
Yes, 20th century authors state Laffay 1840, however, the earliest references from the 19th century attribute it to Parmentier. François Joyaux in "La Rose de France" also has Parmentier as the breeder. We have added this reference with the explanation of the error.
Reply #2 posted 18 APR 24 by Bug_girl
Thanks!
most recent 14 SEP 21  
Initial post 14 SEP 21 by Le_Not
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most recent 20 MAY 17  
Initial post 21 JAN 14 by Charles Quest-Ritson
'Cardinal de Richelieu' is NOT strongly fragrant. It is one of the least fragrant of old roses. You might also mention that it is triploid, which suggests that it is a cross between a China rose and a European rose, though it has several other characteristics which point to China blood (including the brilliance of the flowers' colour, the shape of the prickles, and the small, shiny leaves).
Reply #1 posted 20 MAY 17 by Gdisaz10
i agree no fragrance