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'Bougainville' rose Reviews & Comments
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#1 of 0 posted
30 OCT 23 by
odinthor
This posting with its question about the shrubby vine Bougainvillea, of the family Nyctaginaceæ, probably would best be deleted (beautiful though the plant be).
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Why, under 'Bougainville' in References, is Joyaux's commentary listed twice in a row? (Just curious about this curiosity.)
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The rose used to be on Bougainville's grave, but I asked Odile Masquelier to check when she mentioned it in an article, and it's no longer there. From the Journal of Heritage Roses in Australia summer 2011, 33.4, pp 26-30 (you can find it via Trove), reprinted in translation from Le Journal des Roses Anciennes en France, no. 16, Autumn 2010. "Push hard, because it has rained", kindly observed the keeper, whom I knew and who had handed me the key of St. Peter’s cemetery in Montmartre. In this green and quiet haven, whose entrance is closed to the public, a few gravestones are still looked after and, on one of them, the inscription reads: “To the Memory of Louis-Antoine, Count de Bougainville, 1729 – 1811”. On each corner of that grave I reverently planted a rose of the ‘Bougainville’ variety¹ created in 1823 by my grandmother, daughter-in-law of Scipion Cochet (the famous ‘Maman Cochet’)". The person thus speaking of the Admiral is none other than P Charles Cochet, nephew of the founder of the ‘Journal des Roses’, Scipion Cochet.
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1 NOV 21 by
Darrell
I don't understand the reply. Are you suggesting that part of what you quoted by the nephew or all that you wrote should or will take the place of the duplicated comment? It doesn't seem to answer my question.
Or that HMF will leave the redundant duplicate entry by Joyaux?
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I'll leave that to the administrators. I was just adding a point of interest, which incidentally disagrees with the info we have about who bred it.
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1 NOV 21 by
jedmar
Sometimes an entry is duplicated when posting. Reasons unknown. Duplicate removed, thank you for the heads up!
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Le Bon Jardinier pour l'annee 1828 (1827) p. 781
LA BOUGAINVILLE, des semis de M. Vibert. Fleurs moyennes, pleines, bien fermées, pétales ondulés, d'un rose tendre tirant sur le lilas.
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Please can you make the following amendments to the data at the bottom of the page: [1] the rose was named after l'Amiral de Bougainville, not Bouganville [2] Cochet's name was Christophe, not Christophre.
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Thank you Charles. Done.
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