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'Purple Voluptia ®' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 167-632
most recent 23 JUL SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 21 JUN by oakslesly
Is this gorgeous rose available in the USA? If so, where is it for sale? Thank you
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Reply #1 of 7 posted 28 JUN by Michael Garhart
The closest to this one in North America is called 'Eau De Parfumâ„¢ Berry Rose'.

It's not the same rose, but by the same breeder and in the same marketed trademark group at the European variant.
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Reply #2 of 7 posted 23 JUL by all the names are taken
If it's not the same rose, then why does HMF list it as the same rose? Similarly, pictures and videos of 'Laudatio' always show a much lighter and pinker rose than the pictures and videos of 'Timeless Purple' (with darker, more violet colors). At first, I thought the differences were caused by weather conditions but the evidence along with your comment suggest that two different, though related, roses are sold under one name/trademark in different countries. Do I need to buy from the UK to get the dark 'variant'?
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Reply #3 of 7 posted 23 JUL by Michael Garhart
www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.89491

It's listed here. The North American variant has a unique codename different from the European variant.
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Reply #4 of 7 posted 23 JUL by all the names are taken
Turns out HMF doesn't allow replies containing yt links. The gist of it was that I believe even within the NOA38121 variant there seem to be two genetically different roses. Darker one in the Uk and lighter one for the Continent.
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Reply #5 of 7 posted 23 JUL by jedmar
With the identical breeder code, it cannot be two variants. The colour differences on the posted photos may be aquirk of photography - red and purple are difficult to reproduce.
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Reply #7 of 7 posted 23 JUL by all the names are taken
Yes I know. The camera can change colors, just like the season can change colors etc, but I wanted this gorgeous rose from @Sarahraven's YT video titled "Try this thornless rose in your garden this summer" and mine just doesn't look like that. I'll wait until fall and see if my 'Laudatio' starts behaving like 'Timeless Purple'. If it doesn't, I'll stand by my conspiracy theory.
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Reply #6 of 7 posted 23 JUL by Michael Garhart
if you remove the h t t p colon and slashes, you can link safe sites. HMF is sensitive when it thinks the chat is being edited rather than simply linked.

In www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.89491&tab=32 in the comments I explain that they are different Noack codes.

Austin has english florist roses in Canada with the identical names of Austin roses for all of North America, but they have different code names. Many are scentless. It makes things very confusing, especially since Austins in Canada can be 2 different, but similar, Austin roses with identical names.

It's honestly not cool of them to confuse the public. No one has time for that mess lol.
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Discussion id : 117-393
most recent 3 JUL 19 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 2 JUL 19 by observer
This rose is sold in UK as "Timeless Purple":
http://www.whartons.co.uk/documents/a-to-z-roses.pdf
https://www.rhs.org.uk/plants/plants-blogs/plants/february-2019/Rosa-Timeless-Purple-Noa38121
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 3 JUL 19 by Patricia Routley
Thank you.
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Discussion id : 116-877
most recent 24 MAY 19 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 24 MAY 19 by Unregistered Guest
Available from - Hauenstein Garten-Center
https://www.pflanzenshop.hauenstein-rafz.ch/
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Discussion id : 116-876
most recent 24 MAY 19 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 24 MAY 19 by Unregistered Guest
Available from - Hauenstein Garten-Center
https://www.pflanzenshop.hauenstein-rafz.ch/
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