I think I ordered from EuroDesert but it was fulfilled by Vintage. I planted that & three Blue For You roses in May 2011. The roses were from Vintage & I rarely ordered from there. I almost shovel pruned Black Country Pride because it grew & grew, but no blooms for 2 years. It's very tall after three tough winters in a row in Boston area. It's hardy without protection & once it starts blooming, it's almost always in bloom. I have lost 10+ year old own root roses from the past three winters, but both Black Country Pride & Blue For You all made it.