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'Vircloud' rose Reviews & Comments
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Thinking out loud here...as this is a hybrid between Reve d'Or and Gigantea, it seems it would be a triploid, inheriting probably fourteen chromosomes (including the repeat flowering gene) from Reve d'Or and seven from Gigantea. That may make it useful and interesting for breeders to work with. I would be quite interested to see a self seedling of it to observe what might be possible from what's behind it.
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Kim, Reve d'or descends from a Tea, so it's likely diploid like gigantea. I'd guess 'Amber Cloud' is diploid as well.
See descendants. That's why I used it with 'Leonie Lamesch'.
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Understood, Robert, but would you expect a first generation Gigantea hybrid to repeat as this one does? It seems there is more to the story than straight diploid cross.
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Kim, 'Amber Cloud' never repeated for me in my climate.
I'm guessing it might offer some scattered later bloom in a coastal climate not unlike gigantea, but I wouldn't call it perpetual flowering.
That said, it wouldn't be the first repeat flowering hybrid derived from a diploid species if it did. I've raised a few myself. It seems meiosis isn't always as even as one might assume.
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"Amber Cloud', is a Hybrid Gigantea, not Hybrid Gallica.
Classification in error as brought to my attention by Girija Viraraghavan.
Thanks, Robert
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There's another error - "Deep yellow Hybrid Gallica"
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Corrected ... thank you.
Smiles,
Lyn
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Thanks to all of you
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Dear Girija, I've just received a plant of this Rose from Marco, as well as some other of Viru's Clinophylla hybrids ('Gange's Mist' and 'Silver Dawn'). We'll see how they do perform in my garden!
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We'd be most interested to hear how they perform. Thanks
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This cultivar bloomed for the first time in my garden March 10, 2007. It's truly an imposing rose. The blossoms are quite large and hold up much better than one would expect for their size.
I'm certain it is going to be very popular once it becomes better known. The plant is very vigorous and the foliage beautiful.
Those in mild climates with enough space to feature a luxurious climber in a novel new color should consider 'Amber Cloud'. It's an instant classic on a par with 'Mermaid' but with richer tones.
Fragrance is mild tea.
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How has the rose performed and bloomed since Mar 2007?
I am very interested in growing this gigantea hybrid. the only source, Rogue Valley, will not have it ready until next year.
I am located in Central Texas and with this parentage the rose should grow well on our alkaline soils.
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Yes, 'Amber Cloud' had a lovely Spring bloom 2008 as well.
I originally gave this one to Roses Unlimited for propagation at the request of the Viraraghavans. Check with Roses Unlimited. They've should have had time to get it into production by now.
I also shared it with Paul Barden who must have passed it along to Rogue Valley.
After Spring of 2008 I removed my specimen of 'Amber Cloud'. I was able to utilize it for hybridization and now have offspring.
Btw, 'Amber Cloud' did not repeat for me in my climate. Reports of repeat flowering come from those who have grown it in cooler areas.
I wish I had room to keep everything but hybrid giganteas get large and I am limited on space. It was my goal to get 'Amber Cloud' distributed for propagation. I accomplished that goal.
You're right it should be good own-root in central TX.
Best wishes, Robert
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