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'Souvenir de la Malmaison Rouge' rose Reviews & Comments
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There was also a Tea-scented China with this name:
The Gardener and Practical Florist 2: 8 (1843)
Tea-scented Chinas
Leveson Gower - pale yellow - globular, large and double
The references from 1842 and 1844 may be of this variety.
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#1 of 3 posted
18 APR 14 by
 jedmar
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Yes, this might be a different variety due to the colour (pale yellow, fawn). Some more research is needed.
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#2 of 3 posted
6 NOV 14 by
CybeRose
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Handy book of the flower-garden (1868)
By David Thomson
Tea-scented.
Leveson-Gower – yellow.
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6 NOV 14 by
CybeRose
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The Rose Garden: In Two Divisions. Div. 2, p. 136 (1848)
By William Paul
Group 35.—The Tea-Scented Rose
73. Leveson Gower; flowers pale yellow, distinct.
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A helpful note re pronunciation: a ditty by Philadelphia journalist Ralph D Paine in 1897 regarding LG's son who captained the England cricket team on an American tour that year tells us:
At one end stocky Jessop frowned,
The human catapult
Who wrecks the roofs of distant towns
When set in his assault.
His mate was that perplexing man
We know as "Looshun-Gore",
It isn’t spelt at all that way,
We don’t know what it’s for.
But as with Cholmondeley and St. John
The alphabet is mixed,
And Yankees cannot help but ask -
"Why don't you get it fixed?"
The Cricket Captains of England, Alan Gibson, 1989, The Pavilion Library, ISBN 1-85145-390-3, p114
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Love it! But the poet(aster) didn't get the emphasis on St John right, I think.
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Available from - Ashdown Roses -- sold as 'Souvenir de la Malmaison Rouge'
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I do not believe this is actually a sport of Souviner de la Malmaison. I have grown both in my garden since the late 1990s (Fort Worth Texas) and have transplanted both once to the new garden location (Denton Texas). My source for Leveson Gower was Heirloom Garden Roses in the 1990s.
1. Vigor is different: Souviner de la Malmaison (SDLM) is a bit more vigorous.
2. Disease resistance diffrerence: Leveson Gower shows much more disease (Blackspot and Powdery Meldew) than SDLM.
3. Leaf Color: Leveson-Gower has leaves of a lighter green when compared to SDLM.
4. Petal Number: SDLM has more petals
5. Flower form: SDLM has a slightly more refined cupped / quartered look while Leveson-Gower has a slightly higher center (see my photographs for comparisons of both flowers).
6. Scent: Leveson-Gower has a fruiter / more tea like scent than SDLM.
7. Genetic Evidence: I have tested both SDLM and LG with molecular markers for my thesis work, and there are enough molecular marker differences to bring into question the accuracy of calling these varieties 'sports".
They could be related, though I do not think they are sports.
Brent Dickerson's 'Old Rose Advisor' (p 98-99) states that Leveson-Gower (Beluze, 1846) is NOT a sport of SDLM but probably a "sister seedling or related cross". Dickerson states that confusion has existed for some time, but was "never stated to be a sport of SDLM". Leveson-Gower is known as Malmaison Rose also. With "Malmaison ROSE" being used in the nursery trade, confusion with "Malmaison ROUGE" is probable
Malmaison Rouge (Gonod, 1882) was introduced later, as a red/purple sport of SDLM. It is likely extinct, according to the 'Old Rose Advisor'.
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12 JUL 08 by
Cass
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Thanks you for adding this information to HelpMeFind.
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Thanks for the reply.
Wouldn't it be great to locate a red or dark pink sport of SDLM? Perhaps someone has already and is selling it under the correct name. It has not been unheard of for "extinct" sports to re-appear on the parent plant as new mutations.
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