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'Frau Dr. Schricker' rose Reviews & Comments
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most recent 30 DEC 06 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 28 DEC 06 by Unregistered Guest

Lambert calls Frau Dr. Schricker a Hybrid China. Description:


Frau Dr. Schricker (J. Felberg-Leclerc 1927). Hybrid China. large blooms, double, crimson red interspersed with brilliant copperred. Dark leaves, upright growth, floriferous, nice fragrance. (Gruss an Teplitz x Souvenir de Mme Eugène Verdier).


 


Source: Peter Lambert, "Rosen, Obst und Zierbäume", Trier 1938/39


 

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Reply #1 of 3 posted 29 DEC 06 by Cass
If you mean Hybrid China in the sense of the American Rose Society classification scheme -- that has been roundly criticised and rejected-- which is the old China class, then that makes sense. Here is the description from Schultheis that I think describes a repeat blooming rose.

"Diese Chinarose besitzt recht große, gut gefüllte Rosen in kräftigem Rosa, die gefüllt sind, stabil und edel in der Erscheinung. Sie erheben sich meist einzeln an kräftigen Blütenstielen über dem buschig wachsenden Strauch. Sie duften gut und erscheinen bis in den Herbst hinein. Ca. 1 m hoch."

Google translates as follows (with corrections, I think):
This China rose possesses quite large, well-filled roses in strong pink. They rise usually individually on strong blooming stems above the bushy- growing plant. They are fragrant and appear into the autumn. Approx. 1 m high.

The Hybrid China classification is, we belive, being corrected by the American Rose Society in the next Modern Roses. Accordingly, this rose will be classified as a China. Thanks for the information.
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Reply #2 of 3 posted 29 DEC 06 by Unregistered Guest
Thanks Cass. The Hybrid China designation came from the original Lambert text (Bengalhybride). As you well know, in earlier catalogues of the late 19th and early 20th century a differentiation is made between Chinas and Hybrid Chinas (China plus Damask etc.). Lambert also listed Burbank, Fellemberg, Hermosa, Leuchtfeuer and Setina as Hybrid Chinas.
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Reply #3 of 3 posted 30 DEC 06 by Cass
All of the Hybrid Chinas you list have been subsumed into either the China or Cl. China classes; accordingly, I'm most comfortable with the China class. But I'll certainly add the note that Lambert classified it as a Hybrid China. It will be interesting to see if Modern Roses picks this rose up in its next edition and how it will be classified. I wish I understood enough German to understand how Schultheis classifies it.

Hybrid China seems to have been the catchall Shrub category of the 19th century.
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