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'Mrs. Fred Danks' rose Reviews & Comments
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Responding further to HubertG’s photo 336101. What an interesting photograph of ‘Mrs. Fred Danks’ bud HubertG. Do you know the provenance of your rose? Your photograph shows an elongated receptacle whereas my (presumed) ‘Mrs. Fred Danks’ shows a more bead-like receptacle. (Margaret’s photo at Thomas for Roses shows a receptacle intermediate between the two shapes). The bucket-shaped hips I can see in your photographs are different to the pear-shaped hip in Margaret’s photo dated March 20, 2013. If Margaret’s photo was taken at Thomas for Roses, there were two plants there (see 2005 reference.). The 1999 reference says reddish new growth. The only common characteristic in both your and my roses is the white petal edges in both roses (I have also seen this white edge in ‘Hector Deane’ and I think it is not a common feature in roses.) Side-on photos of ‘Mrs. Fred Danks’ receptacles and hips grown throughout Australia would be most valuable
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#1 of 3 posted
7 OCT 19 by
HubertG
I planted that rose for my sister, who isn't an avid gardener, in about 1999, and I believe I bought it from Golden Vale Nursery although I can't be 100% sure. If I find any receipts confirming this I'll let you know. The hips that you point out in the photo showing the buds in profile are dried up and hanging on the bush, so perhaps give an impression of the wrong shape. You can see a couple of ripe orange hips on top in photo 336100 showing the whole bush. They are typically somewhat pear-shaped - more narrow at the stalk end. I collected a handful yesterday so I'll post a photo. Your "presumed" Mrs. Fred Danks doesn't look to be the same as what my sister grows. Is this the pink sport that Thomas' grew, or a foundling that has been possibly id'd as MrsFD? Just looking at the photos here, even the rose grown in the Alister Clark Garden and posted by hmfusr and David Elliott appears to differ from what I'm familiar with. It's hard to tell from a few photos though, perhaps it's a culture issue. In the photos posted by Margaret Furness, Sergio Scudu, Sue in NSW, lynfarn, anonymous-380 and petals and buds, I can certainly recognise the MrsFD that I know. The foliage might have a slight reddish tinge at times, but nothing like what is commonly seen on Teas and HTs, and it is generally a fresh almost limey green colour which compliments the flowers beautifully. For what it's worth I can't see any Gigantea in it, unless there is some way back in it's breeding. It always reminds me of 'Amy Johnson' in the flower colour and foliage and I've wondered before if the two were related. 'Mrs. Fred Danks' has pinkish stamens.
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HubertG,comparing the hips in your photo with Krussman’s illustrations (see GLOSSARY/HIPS/PHOTOS) they appear to be g-rose shaped or h-ellipsoid. They are not c-pear-shaped as is Margaret’s photo. My “presumed" ‘Mrs. Fred Danks’ is not the pink sport that Thomas (in South Australia) grew, but a Western Australian foundling rose. Yesterday I looked closely at my records for this foundling and a cutting was taken in 1950 by a lady (born in 1928j and it was her grandmother’s rose. The owner also grew ‘Rubaiyat’ 1946, so I thought ‘Mrs. Fred Danks’ was within the time frame. I did a Field Report on my foundling in 2003 and noted then the leaf colour was “blue-green”. Today I would have written “dark green”. I also noted then that the anthers were light brown, stigmas were pink, and the filaments were white. I had a look at my rose yesterday and it is doing well. No time right now to do more than this comment (the dentist awaits). I’ll wait for a mature hip this season before considering whether to make a separate file for this foundling.
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#3 of 3 posted
9 OCT 19 by
HubertG
Patricia, my hips are probably closer to e obovate then h ellipsoid which seem fairly symmetrical to me, but Margaret's rose does look the same as mine.
Regarding possible suggestions for your "presumed" Mrs. Fred Danks - owing to the unusual petal margin bleaching, it's not impossible that it is another Clark rose that is related to 'Mrs. Fred Danks', since Clark seemed to have his favourite breeding lines. Also, as the lady who took the cutting in 1950 was sentimental about her grandmother's rose, I wonder if it was something she remembered from her childhood and it in fact dates from the 1930s, or even earlier. I know that because roses in WA often need fortuneana stock to survive, are there any nursery lists available for that region in that time frame that might give ideas? Your rose has rather upright stems which seem quite long. Maybe it's an American rose from that era??
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17 OCT 14 by
hebe
I planted mine this August, and 2 months later it has quite severe blackspot, while most other roses are showing none at all. Does anyone know if it will grow out of this?
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#1 of 4 posted
17 OCT 14 by
Jane Z
unusual for Mrs Danks, as she's recently planted perhaps a little drink of Seasol might be a good pick me up tonic for her.
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#2 of 4 posted
17 OCT 14 by
hebe
Thanks, I'll try another dose I did use it when I planted her.
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How is it going now? Any improvement?
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#4 of 4 posted
9 FEB 15 by
hebe
Thanks for the interest. Yes, it's only got a little blackspot, despite the amount of rain and high humidity we've had.
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3 MAR 06 by
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A fantastic rose. It's coped with an extremely hot summer with stingy amounts of water and flowered prolifically over quite a long period. Intensely fragrant and the colour is better in real life than in the photos. Makes delicious pot pourri. No problems with diseases or insects. Seriously, one of the best all-round roses I've ever had. Should be much more widely known.
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7 OCT 08 by
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Thanks for your comment about Mrs Fred Danks. I lost one in a drought, and recently I was sent a bare root at the begining of Spring as the man was going out of roses a bit, but it has died too. I saw it once at the Alister Clark memorial garden and have wanted it ever since. I will buy anothe one or two when I can and keep trying until I have what you have.
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