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'Céline' rose Reviews & Comments
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The quote from Rivers in 1846--the one with the leaves which are nine inches long--the isolated quote here leaves the impression that the rose being described in the quote is 'Céline'; but on reading the whole passage in Rivers, it's clear that the only thing referring to 'Céline' is that those who know 'Céline' will have an idea of the habit of 'Great Western', which latter is the rose with the nine-inch leaves, etc. etc. etc.
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29 AUG by
 jedmar
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Yes, this quote is misplaced. Thank you for the heads up!
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The Floricultural Cabinet, and Florists' Magazine, Volume 18 pages 244-245 (Oct 1850)
Rose Stocks
Thomas Appleby, Rose Mount Nursery, York
The next I shall notice is the Celine stock, being far superior to the Boursault for general purposes; but it is too robust and rough for delicate Roses, and especially for Teas and Chinas, and it is not fit for pot culture on account of its strong roots and paucity of fibres. Another serious objection to this stock (as Mr. Rivers truly observes) is the uncertainty of the cuttings rooting. This, with amateurs and gardeners, may be a trifling objection, for if they obtain thirty plants out of a hundred cuttings, their wants are probably satisfied; but not so with the nurseryman who has to calculate upon a certain number annually.
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(I don't know whether this is the same Celine)
Journal of Horticulture and Practical Gardening, Volume 37 page 450 (Dec 4, 1879)
The Celine Stock For Roses (Ignoramus).—The Celine stock is a very robust, strong-growing, Hybrid Bourbon summer Rose of a pretty pink colour, in no way related to the sub-evergreen Tea Noisette Celine Forestier. The Celine was first introduced as a stock by Mr. Curtis, now of Torquay, some forty years since, and is much used now as a rootstock on which to work the strong-growing Teas and Noisettes not congenial to the Manetti.
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I very much doubt, if the year of breeding/introduction is really correct. To the best of my knowledge nowhere in rose literature a Hybrid Bourbon called 'Celine' is mentioned prior to 1835. Might this be one of the perpetuated errors of rose literature ?
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3 APR 08 by
jedmar
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There was a pale pink 'Céline' classed as a hybrid bourbon by Paul and McIntosh, as a china by Nietner and as a hybrid gallica by l'Hay. It must be one of the very early Gallica-China-Bourbon hybrids. We may still find the original source linking this to Laffay.
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