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"Astra Desmond" rose Reviews & Comments
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Re Notes: Note about Breeder: please see References to try to sort out the confusion about Breeder.
2003. Climbing Roses of the World. Charles Quest-Ritson p150. excerpts...
1906. Mrs. F. W. Flight. intro by Cutbush
1916 White Flight - a pure white sport of Mrs. F. W. Flight. intro by Rochford.
1923 another? (white?) sport*
(*Brent C. Dickerson. The Old Rose Adventurer, page 355. The same sport possibly
also occurred for Koster in 1923.)
'White Flight' circulates in parts of Europe under the erroneous name of 'Astra Desmond'.
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It looks like all the photos posted are of a less full rose than the one described. Does White Flight circulate as Astra Desmond, or vice versa? The stated sport parent, Mrs F W Flight, is semidouble or less, but the earliest reference posted describes White Flight as "well double". All very confusing.
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Re 'Astra Desmond'. You might like to have a look at the 'White Flight' 1996 and 2003 references.
As for semi-double or double.. There is a faint possibility that the 1916 and 1923 sports differed by their petalage. Trevor Griffiths 1986 photo seems to have about three layers of petals, whilst Charles Quest-Ritson's 2003 plate 86 seems fairly double.
(I have often wondered if the white-with green-tinges "Edna Walling" rose could be 'White Flight'.)
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Yes, I'd seen those references, and your comment re "Edna Walling". The photo of "Edna Walling" in the autumn 2011 issue of the Heritage Roses in Australia journal looks very similar to some of the photos. The photo I posted of "Edna Walling" has fewer petals, but it was taken in a riot of ramblers and I can't guarantee it was the correct one. I will post more photos in spring.
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30 MAR 04 by
Anonymous-797
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My version was obtained from Peter Beales Nursery several years ago. It has lasted through several Brooklyn winters in a large pot, but has not bloomed for me yet. It appears to root readily.
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