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'Suaveolens' rose Reviews & Comments
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Hi, I just noticed twenty buds on an Alba Suaveolens (from Lottum) yesterday - see pictures ; it is mid-fall in France and the buds were scattered all across the bush. I guess the weather may have tricked it into some reblooming, also I thought the leaves looked less healthy as usual this year. I didnt notice that on other once-bloomers Double Scotch, wichuraianas and local wild roses... Except for Rouge Marbrée which for the first time is showing flowers in Autumn. I was wondering if someone had a similar experience with an Alba rose ?
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The Vintage Garden Book of Roses stated that they, the nursery proprietors, had had reports of rebloom on Alba maxima. Alba semiplena, maxima and suaveolens are all members of the same sport family. I don't have a citation, but I believe it has now been determined that the albas came from a (probably) spontaneous cross between R. canina and a Damask rose. We do know that some of the Damasks do rebloom, so I think it is entirely possible that the albas may have inherited a reblooming recessive gene which occasionally expresses as scattered fall bloom.
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#2 of 6 posted
12 NOV by
ThomasR
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Thank you Nastarana for your reference, I couldnt find any, this book seems to be a collector !
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A Most Treasured Possession for those of us who bought one when the nursery was closing.
I hope fair use covers this: Vintage Garden Book of Roses, 2006, p. 23, from the description of Alba maxima:
"Late summer rebloom in California is reliable on mature plants that are well grown."
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#4 of 6 posted
13 NOV by
ThomasR
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This is so interesting ! I just read hypothesis about the origins of Albas, I think there is still a doubt about their lineage, and also I was wondering how they behaved in different climates. Another bloom that surprised me the same day was from rosaceae Cydonia Oblonga.
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Do you know of any source for non-paywalled information about the origin of the alba group?
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#6 of 6 posted
16 NOV by
ThomasR
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There is an article in the newsletter of the World Federation Of Rose Societies ("By Any Other Name"issue 26) in which Karin Schade explains her work on the Alba group. The editorial note states that the origin of Albas is still uncertain. I will send you the link in a private message.
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Palatine Roses is offering 'Alba suavolens' this fall. Palatine shows quite a good picture.
https://palatineroses.com/rose/suaveolens
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Ther are sometimes problems with semiplena and suaveolens because the only difference is that semiplena has less petals, but its easy if you are able to compare the flowers. Do that at the photos!
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I just planted an 'alba suavolens', which I bought from High Country Roses, between 'alba semiplena' and 'alba maxima' . Next spring I should be able to compare all three, provided I can protect them from Peter Rabbit over the winter.
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so if you will try. paint the canes with bottermilk.as Long as there is no rain it will Keep him away
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Buttermilk! I was thinking of wire cages around each. We do get plenty of rain and snow both.
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