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RoseRosa Ciphiana most recent yesterday SHOW ALL

Initial post 28 JAN 17 by CybeRose

Sibbald discovered this striped Scotch rose on his farm at Kipps in West Lothian. He altered this name to the more pleasant sounding Ciphiana.

Scotia Illustrata Sive Prodromus Historiae Naturalis (1684) p. 46
Robert Sibbald

Rosa ciphiana, seu Rosa Pimpinellae foliis minor nostras, flore eleganter variegato, Catal. Horti Medici Edinburgensis.

Rosam hanc, quod in Praedio meo Ciphiano sponte nascatur, Ciphianam appellavi. Ea cum non occurrat apud ullum ex Scriptoribus Botanicis, quos mihi videre contigit, digna visa est qua describatur.

Ex radice longâ lignosà per terram serpente assurgit caulis Cubitalis ut plurimùm altitudinis, quandoque majoris , aliquando minoris, qui in tenues ramos se diffundit, spinis densissìmis ab ipsâ radice usque ad plantae summitatem undique armatus. Rami de se protrudunt folia Pimpinellae vulgaris foliis, tum figura, tum quantitate & colore incisurisque in margine levibus, simillima; inter que ex pediculo suo calyx propender, quo aperto exerit e flos simplex tinctus rubedine varia, in quibusdam saturatiore, in aliis dilutiore, in omnibus virgulis albis pulchrè distinctâ. Cui deciduo succedit pomum coloris atro-rubentis, rotundius & minus Cynorrhodi vulgaris pomis, id lanugine quadam & seminibus oblongo-rotundis, & eх infernâ parte magis compressìs , &, ex basi latiore, cordis effìgie in conum definentibus repletum. Flos eximium odorem de se fundit, quâ pollet tenuitate, penetrantem. Foliis saepe adnascuntur pilulae rubro-pallescentes, nunc rotundae, nunc oblongae, cavitate quadam cujusdam Insecti nidulo donatae.

Nascitur in colle quodam Praedii nostri Сiphiani Austro obverso, declivi admodum, cautibus squalido, nec alibi, quod sciam, conspicitur.

Perennis est planta. In hortos translata tum floris variegationem, tum suavissimum odorem conservat. Eam Sapphicis Versibus fusè descripti & vires ejus enarravi in Ode quadam , quae ad hujus libri calcem habetur.
https://books.google.com/books?id=lLJSAAAAcAAJ&dq=Robert%20Sibbald&pg=RA1-PA46#v=onepage&q&f=false

Ode de Rosa Ciphiana is on pp. 61-62 includes:

Flos Variegatus

Multiplex qualis Rosa splendidisque
Lineis albis decorat Ruborem
Caryophyllis, nitet Tulipis
Purpura qualis.

Reply #1 of 6 posted 28 JAN 17 by HMF supporting member

jedmar

Great find! It seems from this text that 'Ciphiana' was a Scots rose with varying shaded of red (possibly pink), not the yellow 'Scotia' whose photos are from L'Haÿ.	REPLY

Reply #2 of 6 posted 28 JAN 17 by CybeRose

Reply #4 of 6 posted yesterday by HMF supporting member

jedmar

Latin text finally added, with English translation by member AndyO	REPLY

Reply #3 of 6 posted 2 days ago by HMF supporting member

AndyO

Rosa ciphiana, or Rosa with smaller leaves like Pimpinella, with elegantly variegated flowers, from the Catalogue of the Edinburgh Physic Garden.

I have named this rose Ciphiana, because it grows spontaneously on my estate at Ciphia. Since I have not found it mentioned by any botanical authors I’ve had the opportunity to consult, I deemed it worthy of description.

From a long, woody root that creeps through the earth, rises a stem usually about a cubit in height—sometimes taller, sometimes shorter—which branches into slender shoots, armed all over with very dense spines from the root to the top of the plant. The branches bear leaves very similar to those of the common Pimpinella, in shape, size, color, and with gentle serrations along the margins. Among these, from its own stalk, hangs a calyx, which when opened reveals a simple flower tinged with varying shades of red—deeper in some, paler in others—but in all beautifully marked with white streaks.

After the flower falls, it is succeeded by a fruit of dark reddish color, rounder and smaller than the hips of the common dog rose (Cynorrhodon vulgaris), covered with a kind of down and filled with oblong-round seeds, more compressed at the lower part, and narrowing from a broader base into a cone shaped like a heart. The flower emits an exquisite fragrance, notable for its subtlety and penetrating quality.

On the leaves often appear reddish-pale galls, sometimes round, sometimes oblong, each with a cavity that serves as a nest for a certain insect.

It grows on a particular hill of our Ciphian estate, facing south, quite steep and rocky, and as far as I know, is not seen elsewhere.

The plant is perennial. When transplanted into gardens, it retains both the variegation of its flowers and its most delightful scent. I have described it at length in Sapphic verse and explained its properties in an ode found at the end of this book (see end of Latin text)

Reply #5 of 6 posted yesterday by HMF supporting member

jedmar

Translation added, thank you!	REPLY

Reply #6 of 6 posted yesterday by HMF supporting member

AndyO

Most welcome	REPLY

Website Errors and Problems most recent yesterday SHOW ALL

Initial post 5 days ago by Howard52

Reply #1 of 3 posted 4 days ago by HMF supporting member

HMF Admin

Adding roses to HMF is restricted to ensure the accuracy of our database. If for now it's just a single rose, please provide us with the rose name and we will add it to HMF and link your account to the listing to fill in the details.	REPLY

Reply #2 of 3 posted 2 days ago by Howard52

The rose is a hybrid tea, a sport of Ronald Reagan. Mr. Lockhart wants to name it 'Day Spring'.	REPLY

Reply #3 of 3 posted yesterday by HMF supporting member

Kathy Strong

We usually don’t assign names to sports until we know they are stable. Is this one growing away from the mother plant and how many bloom cycles have you seen that are stable. Otherwise there would be too durn many named sports out there. What is unique about this sport?	REPLY

Rose"Skedarosen" most recent yesterday HIDE POSTS

Initial post yesterday by HMF supporting member

AndyO

Skedarosen

A hardy, shade-resistant gallica with beautiful dark purple flowers.

Description from POM:

The spoon rose is a relatively healthy old-fashioned shrub rose with flowers in an unusual dark violet shade. Each flower shoot produces many fragrant flowers that are 4 – 7 cm in diameter, densely filled and shallowly bowl-shaped to flat. The flowering is abundant and lasts longer than for most other single-flowering roses, from around midsummer to the third week of July in the warmest parts of the country, slightly later in colder climate zones.

POM Rose of the Year 2013

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Initial post 2 days ago by HMF supporting member

Huyustus

Rose Listing Omission Rose Vauban Source : https://www.roses-guillot.com/nouveaux-rosiers/3996-rose-vauban.html	REPLY