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Recent Questions, Answers and Comments
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4 days ago by
 Louis Galarneau
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Mine always has black spot , it's really a problem in my non spray garden . Never Alone but Always with BS, it should be call !
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#1 of 2 posted
4 days ago by
Robert Neil Rippetoe
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I dumped it. It was awful here.
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#2 of 2 posted
today by
Louis Galarneau
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Me too ! I dump it and will replace it by a better performing rose.
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18 JUN 18 by
JasonSims1984
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Who knows where I can get a start of californica? I have seen the nurseries listed, but they are out of the country. I can't import it. There has to be somebody who grows this species in the country. Or has some seeds to trade :)
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#1 of 12 posted
18 JUN 18 by
Kim Rupert
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I will add it to the list, Jason. I have the R. Californica they selected to grow in the Historic Sacramento Cemetery in Sacramento, Ca. There are suckers exiting the bottom of the container and it needs cleaning up, anyway.
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#2 of 12 posted
18 JUN 18 by
Kathy Strong
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I was going to say there are many variations on rosa californica. I have one also that is probably not the one the good folks in Sacto "selected." What I have is one I got originally from the Native plants nursery on the outskirts of San Juan Capistrano called Tree of Life Nursery. They also have Rosa minutifolia, which you would probably also like. However, since you don't say where you are, I guess there are two options here -- come get a piece of mine in San Diego, or drive on out Highway 74 in San Juan Capistrano if that is closer. Or get Kim's.
ps Forestfarms.com in Oregon is another good place to get most species roses, but I don't see californica on their list at the moment. It might be too common for them.
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#3 of 12 posted
18 JUN 18 by
JasonSims1984
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I'm actually currently in San Diego! I would love to come and get a piece of some minutifolia and/or some californica! Email me and I'll give you my cell phone number :).
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#5 of 12 posted
18 JUN 18 by
Kathy Strong
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Well then, I should probably also invite you to the San Diego Rose Society meeting tomorrow night, Monday, June 18, at which our topic will be hybridizing roses. Come one, come all, 7 pm at Casa Del Prado, room 101, in Balboa Park. If you haven't been there before, it's across the street from the museum of natural history and next door to the junior theater bldg.
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#6 of 12 posted
18 JUN 18 by
JasonSims1984
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No way! That's fantastic! I'm so excited! I have been obsessively reading about roses for weeks now. And now you say you have the rose I am looking for and you have it miraculously here in the place I am visiting next to the rose garden that I love to visit and I get to attend a rose group meeting tommorow night! Pinch me. I will be there.
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#7 of 12 posted
19 JUN 18 by
JasonSims1984
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Californica's foliage smells so nice! I have seen it at Walter Anderson nursery but it was in bad shape and it did not have fragrant foliage and someone bought it. I also saw it in someone's garden. It had beautiful lilac flowers. I was mesmerized. But Kathy gave me a sucker from her yard. I really like because it has very fragrant foliage. It has a very woodsy piney smell to it. I am so happy to have it. I feel like I have something no one else has.
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#4 of 12 posted
18 JUN 18 by
JasonSims1984
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#8 of 12 posted
20 JUN 18 by
Tessie
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I would suggest you get R. californica 'First Dawn'. It is a selection of the species by Suncrest Nurseries. They don't sell direct to the public but many nurseries can get their plants.
The two selections of the species I grow are First Dawn and Los Berros. First Dawn is the better one by far IMHO. It blooms prolifically and repeatedly while Los Berros only lightly blooms with almost no repeat (it is also a water hog). First Dawn blooms in huge sprays and is extremely fragrant. The foliage has a mild to moderate peppery scent. Sets abundant hips with plenty of seeds. Not very thorny (Los Berros is loaded with thorns and prickles). Both are shade tolerant. First Dawn will climb with support. It is blooming now. I'm not sure there are any hips at present as birds like them.
Rancho Santa Ana Botanic Garden grows R. californica from different parts of the state. I've seen all their other selections. They also grow First Dawn and Los Berros where I bought mine. First Dawn is my favorite but my second favorite one is a plant from San Diego County. It is very nice. The RSABG nursery is closed for the summer. However, earlier this year they did have available in the nursery R. californica grown from their own stock. Unfortunately I didn't note which one.
Melissa
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#10 of 12 posted
today by
Mandy Luu
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Hi Tessie,
I have been trying to get a First dawn for many years now but couldn't. I first read about from your post on the Houzz. From reading your comments of how fragrant it is and it wafts, I wanted one. I actually drove with my sister to the Rancho...but at the time they only had the Rosa californica without the First dawn so I assumed it was not the cultivar. Anyway the two plants were very thorn and the one survived hardly had any flowers.
Once a while I came across your post like this one again, and it stirred my wanting longing to get one. Sigh...I don't know why it is so hard to get one.
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#11 of 12 posted
today by
Tessie
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Hi Mandy Luu. It is Suncrest Nurseries that selected R. californica 'First Dawn'. They sell it to retail nurseries, so if you have a local retail nursery, you can ask them to get one (or two!) for you from Suncrest. As Suncrest doesn't sell direct to the public.
The Rancho Santa Ana Botanic Garden has changed its name to the California Botanic Garden. They grow 'First Dawn' on the grounds and periodically sell it in their on site Grow Native Nursery. Grow Native Nursery publishes an availability list which is updated every week on Thursday in the late afternnoon. The nursery is about to close for the summer on June 22. The current availability list doesn't have 'First Dawn' on it but as a matter of fact I bought another one from them last year. You can write to Grow Native Nursery and ask about 'First Dawn' at this address: gnnclaremont@calbg.org. Perhaps if you request it, they might make it available in the fall plant sale which is when they reopen after summer hiatus. The staff at GNN are really nice and helpful.
Melissa
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#12 of 12 posted
today by
Tessie
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I have a habit of keeping pots with plant ID on them. And sure enough I found the one for the Rosa californica 'First Dawn' that I bought from CalBG's Grow Native Nursery last year. Kind of grubby but legible. Sure enough, from the code 'CBG' on the pot, they grew it rather than buying one from another nursery.
I haven't posted here for so long I've forgotten how to include a photo in my post.......
Melissa
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#9 of 12 posted
20 JUN 18 by
Tessie
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I forgot to mention that Annie's Annuals grows a R. californica with good rebloom. Checking Annie's tonight finds that it is not in production. You could write and ask about it though. Here is the page for that plant: http://www.anniesannuals.com/plants/view/?id=2876
Melissa
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today by
GoldBeardThePirate
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very easy grow with little effort and no spraying. turned into a 2.5x2.5ft bush in its 2nd season in a pot. First to flower for me in 7a/b. It looks like the flower on here and nothing like the more traditional shaped flowers on the sales page photos on home depot or Springhill. The flowers are a lovely pink coral that isn't as vibrant as this pages photo. The bush seems to stay in a clean even shape with no pruning so far. I will post photos soon. I like it but don't love it so it's going in my parent's garden. Nothing wrong with it and it's a fantastically easy going disease free plant just not my cup of tea.
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Initial post
yesterday by
christineb
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Which roses give you the longest lasting blooms (on the plant, not necessarily in a vase)?
The best in my SE England garden are:
Dublin Bay, each flower lasts 4 weeks
Parade, 3 weeks
Ginger Syllabub, 2 weeks
Elmshorn, 2 weeks
(I don't seem to notice the bushes as much as the climbers.)
I think longer lasting flowers make for the most color. Blooms that only last a few days usually repeat faster and can be very floriferous (my stand outs are For Yours Eyes Only and Alibaba), but I really prefer longer lasting blooms. I can’t understand why no one talks about this! I would always go for the longest lasting flowers when buying a rose if this info was available, but it is quite hard to find.
Most newer rose varieties only last a few days each. I think in recent decades, rose breeders have concentrated on healthy foliage and fragrance, whereas in the 1950s-70s long lasting blooms seem to have been a higher priority, and most last a week or more. Older roses than that I think vary by family, but I don't have a lot of experience with them.
Thoughts?
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yesterday by
HubertG
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At the moment in winter in Sydney I've noticed my 'Europeana' is giving bloom that doesn't seem to age, lasting for weeks.
I have a pale pink seedling which I bred, 'General Schablikine' x 'Lorraine Lee', which has given winter flowers lasting in good condition for nearly four weeks. It was surprising since neither parent lasts that long, 'General Schablikine' in particular lasting maybe four days at best.
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