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This rose is essentially a floribunda. Once it matures, it throws both stem-let blooms and full on sprays. Growth habit reminds me of floribunda. I have 2 of these roses, and 1 of them is near my grafted Sunsprite, and they have very similar plant habits and bloom spray architecture. Blooms are roughly he same size.
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Wonder how this compares to Munstead wood, they look pretty simmilar, munstead wood performed pretty badly in my zone 10b medditeranian climate
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#1 of 2 posted
yesterday by
smashzen
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did you by any chance planted it? I'm also mediterrinian climate
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They're very different plants and very different tone of red. Unfortunately, if you live in a rainy area, Rouge Royale's blooms collect water and then rot. If you don't, its not a problem.
I prefer 'Allegorie', but I know some really love 'Munstead Wood' for the blooms alone. I prefer to avoid Austin roses. They often come with a price too annoying to deal with. Often size, water requirements, dropping, slow rebloom and other issues I'm just not willing to deal with anymore. I know MW is on the better side of these problems, but I have heard it can mildew. You may also like 'Ebb Tide' or 'Twilight Zone', if youre into the more purple aspect of 'Munstead Wood'.
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Is this rose (Bijou Corail) the same as another rose listed on HMF called 'Corail Gelee' ?
'Corail Gelee' was released in 2011 but in Japan. It says it was bred by Junko Kawamoto and is listed as a shrub.
'Bijou Corail' it says, was bred by Delbard - before 2011 and described as a floribunda - but it has 2 top Japanese awards!
Seems like a remarkable coincidence - they look so similar, have strong fruity fragrance and have very similar names and both appeared in 2011
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yesterday by
 jedmar
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It is a coincidence. Japanese breeders often give French names to their cultivars. If you follow the links under 'Corail gelée you will see more photos, showuîng that Kawamoto's rose is more double and has ruffled petals.
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Is the identity of the rose(s) shown in the various photos certain? This is not what I would anticipate for a rose which was described early on as "deep cerise," "light red," "bright purplish red," or even just "cerise pink."
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Interesting that none of the references mention a white eye.
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yesterday by
HubertG
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I don't know it's provenance but if it's described as lighter than 'Nancy Hayward' and darker than 'Jessie Clark', and is clearly a Gigantea hybrid, it's probably right. I suspect that the earliest flowers in August/winter are more saturated in colour than the later ones. I haven't grown it but I have grown 'Jessie Clark' and its blooms faded quite quickly on the plant, so perhaps this is also what is showing up in the photos here.
The photo of 'Flying Colours' in the 2014 Mistydowns catalogue shows what could be described as a dark pink/cerise/light red flower and the photo in Peter Cox's book 'Australian Roses' is also a similar shade.
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