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Initial post 5 JAN 07 by meliana
I would like some advice for planting roses in moist soil, which is also a bit clay-ish. i like wild-rose types, white, dark red. I want something that will grow tall and dense,since it is to block an ugly fence, and I am going to plant it in front of some evergreens, so it will be partially shaded.
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Reply #1 of 5 posted 9 JAN 07 by NMrose
Considerations are Zone, State, are you amending soil? shade due to evergreens, what direction does it face? I think we need more info.......... shrub roses vs ? etc.
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Reply #2 of 5 posted 9 JAN 07 by meliana
Yes, I forgot the most important parts!... I am in Maryland, USA, zone 7a. The shade would come from the evergreens, which I have not yet planted, and they will be small until they grow. I will amend the soil, usually I add some good compost and peat moss. They will face NW, so less direct sun. I like shrub roses, wild-type roses, thorny climbers (also for discouraging people, I'm in the city). Rugosas appeal to me--would they tolerate shade?
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Reply #3 of 5 posted 9 JAN 07 by NMrose

I also lived in Maryland in early 70's and worked with roses at that time. That climate can be challenging for foliar diseases and can get cold at times. I would personally recommend roses bred by Dr Buck of Iowa State. Very trouble free and hardy. He bred many shrubs based upon the wild priarie roses of Iowa and Midwest. he bred tea's, floribunda's and Grandiflorias also. His roses flourish here in the high desert of New Mexico (Zone 7 also) with alot of shade(4 hours of sun). Earth Song, Honey Sweet etc are excellent, some get 6-8' in height as a shrub in Zone 7. I suggest the following sites: http://www.ag.iastate.edu/centers/cad/rose1.html and another http://www.ag.iastate.edu/centers/cad/rose1.html


You can order own root roses from many sites located here, I recommend only own root. look up varerities by name and click on where to buy.


Some Rugosas will tolerate moderate shade, you mentioned thorny climbers........look at Apple Jack by Dr. Buck. has thorns and is sprawling..incredidle scent at bloom. Buck used this rose in his breeding program for "antifreeze" very winter hardy. I am using it in a climber breeding program for winter hardiness and fragrance.


 

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Reply #4 of 5 posted 9 JAN 07 by meliana
Thank you, I will look those up!
I am buying own-root roses now--I ordered from Antique Rose Emporium and Vintage Roses so I could compare.
Any other companies you like?
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Reply #5 of 5 posted 10 JAN 07 by NMrose

I have ordered from Heirloom in Oregon many times, most of us order from regional growers. I have great sucess with Heirloom Roses. I used to order from Sam Kedem in Minnesota, however he stopped is mail order business 2 years ago. He is an expert on Buck roses and knows the family well.


their webstes are: www.heirloomroses.com          and they have a climbing rose site also.


Best of luck with your Roses and search for the "right ones"

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