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Initial post yesterday by WillametteRose
This rose is very healthy for me, no blackspot or powdery mildew in 8b PNW Oregon. It makes nice blooms for cutting on strong, straight stems. Quick to repeat and even now trying to bloom at the end of December.
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Initial post 5 days ago by MalinH
Not Mme Alfred Carrière
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Reply #1 of 12 posted 5 days ago by Nastarana
Out of curiosity,, how do you know? What characteristics are you looking at to make your determination?
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Reply #3 of 12 posted 5 days ago by jedmar
I agree too with MalinH. See the two photos I just posted:
- Mme AC has not very densely packed blooms, with petals which are more elongated
- The buds are ovoid pointed, not rounded
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Reply #5 of 12 posted 4 days ago by Nastarana
Thank you. I think I am seeing the difference, especially in the buds.
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Reply #2 of 12 posted 5 days ago by Jay-Jay
I tend to agree on this.
The photo John took earlier is the real-one. You might compare Yourselves Nastarana.
Rose photo courtesy of Johno
Anglesey Abbey Gardens, UK, 23/6/23.
Uploaded 22 JUL 23
www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=21.413376
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Reply #4 of 12 posted 5 days ago by Margaret Furness
It would be interesting to know whether the rose photographed repeat-flowers, which Johno isn't in a position to tell us.
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Reply #6 of 12 posted 4 days ago by Robert Neil Rippetoe
Looks like Félicité et Perpétue
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Reply #7 of 12 posted 4 days ago by Margaret Furness
That was my kneejerk reaction too!
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Reply #8 of 12 posted 4 days ago by Robert Neil Rippetoe
Great minds Margaret!

The buds look like my 'White Pet', which of course, is a sport of Félicité et Perpétue.
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Reply #9 of 12 posted 3 days ago by MalinH
I agree!
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Reply #10 of 12 posted 2 days ago by Johno
I am happy to remove the offending photos. The label was nailed to the post so I would assume the garden was sold an incorrect plant to begin with. I have to admit, I am finding it hard to identify the difference.
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Reply #11 of 12 posted 2 days ago by Robert Neil Rippetoe
It's easy if you've grown MME. Alfred. She's quite different.
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Reply #12 of 12 posted 2 days ago by Jay-Jay
Hi Johno
Photo wasn't experienced as offending by me.
Maybe someone mixed up the labels.
And I agree with Robert Neil Rippetoe: Once growing this rose, You'll never confuse another rose for it.
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Initial post 3 days ago by GoldBeardThePirate
This rose is impossibly bright and vibrant. Blooms in clusters of rich neon orange in a velvet texture. They don't fade much but do turn more neon red with age before fading at the late end of the bloom. They grow fast and well but will need blackspot protection if you live n a humid place or have odd springs that quickly switch between warm and cool. Flowers are up to 3.5 inches across usually in lovely clusters. A good spring pruning greatly boosts this plants vigor. Potted in Zone 7a and doing well going on 5 years. I spent years looking for one and my first bush was pitiful. Years later I found a seller and bought 5. I love this plant and hope it keeps in collection for generations to come. This rose is stunning and would make a nice hybridizer to get some good oranges.
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Reply #1 of 3 posted 2 days ago by Michael Garhart
If you like it you shoudl check out Salita, which may be related to it. Same eye-bleed red-orange coloration, but bigger, fatter blooms.
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Reply #2 of 3 posted 2 days ago by GoldBeardThePirate
Good Morning
I have an 8ft Salita. Thats a great recommendation, I Absolutely love it. My particular one is a little less neon vibrant at the Brillant but you are correct they are fatter. I have a big collection of orange roses I plan on adding my pics and 2cents on here. Something about that color is just spectacular on a rose for me.
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Reply #3 of 3 posted 2 days ago by Lee H.
You’ll probably also like ‘Ring of Fire’.
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