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Does anyone try to grow roses in serious shade? Not dappled shade or partial shade, but full shade. Not California shade, but further north where the sun is not so strong. My difficult area is against a north fence in SE England. It gets 3-4 hours of morning sun at the peak of summer, but most of the time it is less and quite early, so not strong sun.
I am not interested in once-bloomers or rugosas. The fence is not suitable for climbers, so the ones recommended for a north wall won't work unless they can be grown as a shrub or on an obelisk (which most roses for north walls can not, as they are usually rampant).
So far I have doing well here Jacqueline du Pre, Ness, Joie de Vivre, Blue for You, Mutabilis, and Bonica. These are all nice bushy plants with plenty of flowers.
Elmshorn grows but only has leaves and flowers near the top of the fence, so I don't count it a success. This has put me off trying other hybrid musks.
Abraham Darby and Iceberg manage a few flowers but not enough, and they are very sparse, leggy plants, so I am going to move them. Rhapsody in Blue and Chandos Beauty were similar when I tried them. These roses are all recommended for shade, but they do not cope well with this amount of shade
Aloha and Eden look promising, but they are only in their first year, so can't say yet.
Before you tell me it is foolish to attempt roses in this location, I do also have more sensible shade plants against this fence like hydrangeas and anemones, but there's nothing like roses for constant color (plus scent if you are lucky). And I am struggling to find any more space for roses in the sunnier parts of my garden.
I'd love to hear if anyone has had success with roses in this kind of shady location.
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Beginner question here: As a first time rose-grower, I'm looking for a good rose to quickly ascend a north-facing wall in St. Louis, and was pretty taken with the description of 'Rambling Rector'. However, I haven't had any luck finding this in stock in any US nursery. I was wondering if this is just a seasonal thing, or if perhaps I happen to be trying to find a particularly rare or unobtainable variety.
[edit: of course, if anyone wants to recommend something better for this situation, I'm happy to take suggestions]
Thanks! Robbie
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29 MAR 21 by
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It comes down to whether you want a rose that has only one flowering season, like Rambling Rector, or repeat-flowers. Mme Alfed Carriere, as suggested by Delaney, is a nice scented repeat-flowerer. You could contact a Heritage Roses group in your area, to ask what does well in your climate.
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Thank you both for the wonderfully helpful and productive responses!
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29 MAR 21 by
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I just bought my first home,and I would like to start a rose garden.What do I need to do first?And are there any roses to start off with first
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18 FEB 07 by
Wendy C
Check out the Ezine article 'Roses 101'. That should answer most of your questions. Congrats on the new yard.
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Queen Elizabeth and Tiffany are pretty good roses for their hardiness.
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30 JUN 06 by
glenys
Live in Perth WA. would like to know names of Floribunda and Hybrid Roses that tolerate part shade.
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30 JUN 06 by
Jody
Hi I am in WA too. Most roses need several hrs of sun but I have Rosa Nutkana that is mostly in shade and thrives. I don't know of any Floribunda or Hybrid Tea that will do well in total shade but you might try any of the rugosas or hybrid rugosa. Does this area get any sun? I have a Hybrid Tea, Pink Peace that only gets morning sun and does very well. Good Luck
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Angel Face is a floribunda that is supposed to be shade tolerant. Chrysler Imperial, Blue Moon, Blue Girl, Swarthmore, Garden Party, and Bourbon are all shade tolerant hybrids.
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I've found that many roses tolerate part-shade in Perth - they may be a little leggier but some roses definitely appreciate a bit of shade in the hot months. Success depends on 'how much' shade and whether the shade also comes with aggressive hungry and thirsty tree roots. There are so many varieties to choose from and everyone has their favourites - it's a very personal decision. Melvilles Rose Nursery in Carmel have a wonderful display garden and knowledgeable staff. Swiss Rose Nursery and Roworths also. It's worth visiting and seeing how the established plants look in a garden setting. 'Sunlit' is an excellent rose that tolerates a semi-shaded position well. It's one of Alister Clark's Australian bred roses, blooms 12 months of the year in Perth, has beautiful healthy evergreen foliage and hardly any prickles. The bloom colour is an apricot blend. You should be able to get this from Melvilles - if not immediately, then in October. If you have the space, you may be interested in Tea or China roses which are pretty bullet-proof in Perth and many of them grow happily in a semi-shaded position. I know it's a deviation from your request for HTs and floribundas, but Mlle Cecile Brunner, Perle d'Or and Mme Jules Thibaud are sensational smaller roses - healthy, tough, beautiful and so floriferous in our climate.
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