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    'Victor Verdier' rose Reviews & Comments
    most recent 29 SEP 12  
    RoseVictor Verdier (Hybrid Perpetual, Lacharme, 1859)
    Initial post 27 SEP 12 by Daniel from Normandy
    Bonjour !
    I would like to buy 'Victor Verdier' (HP, Lacharme) in Europe, the prototype of Tea Hybrids.
    The German nursery indicated on HmF has not this rose, but 'Mme Victor Verdier'
    Any suggestion?
    Thanks in Advance for your help
    Daniel
    Reply #1 posted 27 SEP 12 by jedmar
    What about the Polish and Serbian nurseries listed? Click the bottom tab "View all nurseries"
    Reply #2 posted 27 SEP 12 by Daniel from Normandy
    Thank you so much, I had not seen that button tab !
    Reply #3 posted 29 SEP 12 by Girija and Viru
    Daniel,
    We got Victor Verdier and many other HPs from Petrovic Roses, good plants
    Reply #4 posted 29 SEP 12 by Daniel from Normandy
    Thank you, I see they have a beautiful catalogue with very nice pictures. I am glad you consider their 'Victor Verdier' is the right one. For me, this prototype rose should be planted in every rose garden concerned by the history of the roses and particularly by the beginnings of the modern roses.
    Daniel
    most recent 15 MAR 07  
    RoseVictor Verdier (Hybrid Perpetual, Lacharme, 1859)
    Initial post 15 MAR 07 by Peter Miller
    If this is a cross between and Hybrid Perpetual (Jules Margottin) and a Tea (Safrano), wouldn't that make it a Hybrid Tea?
    Reply #1 posted 15 MAR 07 by RoseBlush
    Peter......

    Good question. According to most rose history books, the first hybrid tea rose is 'La France' which was introduced in 1867. Your question shows that breeers were working with crosses of hybrid perpetuals and teas prior to the recognition of the outcome as a separate class of roses.

    Smiles,

    Lyn
    most recent 30 NOV 06  
    RoseVictor Verdier (Hybrid Perpetual, Lacharme, 1859)
    Initial post 29 NOV 06 by chilloutroses
    This is described as almost thornless and armed with thorns. Which is it?
    Reply #1 posted 30 NOV 06 by Cass
    The authorities listed under the References tab don't agree about Victor Verdier's armature. Mrs. Keays describes the canes as almost smooth, while Harkness and Moody say it's thorny.