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GardenAlister Clark Memorial Rose Garden (St. Kilda Botanic Gardens) most recent 25 OCT 08 SHOW ALL

Initial post 15 NOV 05 by Victoria State Rose Garden

Reply #1 of 8 posted 9 JAN 06 by kate

The garden is in the St Kilda Botanic Garden is open - sunrise to sunset daily. [However they do not seem to lock the gates at night - but I am fearful of going in after dark because of teh activities of some of St Kilda's denizens.]

They certainly seem to have more than 9 plants - I have emailed the Port Phillip Council's parks and maintenance division, but they haven't responded yet. The Friends of the St Kilda Botanic garden may also be able to help - but I haven't contacted them yet.

Reply #2 of 8 posted 9 JAN 06 by Victoria State Rose Garden

Reply #3 of 8 posted 9 JAN 06 by HMF supporting member

HMF Admin

HelpMeFind is an interactive site. We always welcome having a representative update the HMF listings but often that's not the case and we learn details in drib and drabs.	REPLY

Reply #4 of 8 posted 24 OCT 08 by Eric Timewell

The St Kilda rose garden is still flourishing in 2008, but the number of Alister Clark roses there is dwindling. There are perhaps two climbers and six bushes left, all unlabelled. The gardeners seem to be replacing the Clark roses with David Austin ones. Many beds have popular favorites by neither.
Still, there is now an Alister Clark Rose Garden in the township of Bulla north of Melbourne where most of his roses were bred. It's on the highway next to the old bluestone shire hall, and it has a superb collection of his roses (about 70), beautifully maintained and presented, and very well labelled.

Reply #5 of 8 posted 25 OCT 08 by HMF supporting member

Patricia Routley

There is now a little to be read about the Alister Clark Memorial Garden in the Notes	REPLY

Reply #6 of 8 posted 25 OCT 08 by Eric Timewell

Yes, thank you Patricia. I inserted all the extra material on the Bulla garden yesterday.	REPLY

Reply #7 of 8 posted 25 OCT 08 by HMF supporting member

Patricia Routley

Just clarifying a little, Erictime. There is more to be read about the (older) Alister Clark Memorial Garden (St. Kilda Botanic Gardens) in that page. This is distinct from the (newer) Alister Clark Memorial Garden (at Bulla).	REPLY

Reply #8 of 8 posted 25 OCT 08 by Eric Timewell

Patricia, many thanks. The long extract from the journal is illuminating, and I remember the high intentions expressed at the time the St Kilda Garden was opened. Unfortunately it has since fallen away steeply from the original aims. It is foolish to have two Alister Clark Memorial Gardens within forty miles of one another, especially as one of them has all the available Clark roses and the other has about six. I'll try to get on to that St Kilda curator and see if she's still there.

Looking For... most recent 15 MAR 06 SHOW ALL

Initial post 14 MAY 05 by Tom

Reply #1 of 4 posted 2 JUN 05 by Unregistered Guest

I am looking for a supplier for a rose - MME Berkeley or Berkeley. I live in Toronto, Ontario and I would be interested in any nursery in my vicinity or in the Buffalo area. I would appreciate any information - I have a brand new god child named Berkely and I thought this would be a great present. Thanks to anyone with any information. marlenehawkins@rogers.ca.	REPLY

Reply #2 of 4 posted 3 JUN 05 by Marina's Garden. Crawfordville, FL

Reply #3 of 4 posted 5 JUN 05 by Unregistered Guest

Reply #4 of 4 posted 15 MAR 06 by kate

Hi Tom, I have seen climbing Mr Lincoln's in Bunnings intermittently - at their Mentone store in Melbourne last. They have national distribution, so you should be able to order it with them. good luck Kate	REPLY

GardenBriardale most recent 15 NOV 05 SHOW ALL

Initial post 11 NOV 05 by kate

Hi,

Firstly, your garden is gorgeous! Your Gruss an Aachen is just beautiful, but I cannot believe how enormous your Jean Ducher is!

I was wondering where you got your "Irish Fireflame". I have been looking for one for a while, and there don't seem to be any stockists that I can locate it from. Do you remember where you got it? If you could tell me, I would be terribly grateful.

kind regards

Kate Rose

Reply #1 of 8 posted 11 NOV 05 by Unregistered Guest

Hi Kate, My Irish Fireflame was one of those lucky finds - at a small plant stand outside of the hardware store in Toodyay, WA. I believe their supplier may have been Carmel Rose Farm. Regards Amanda PS I just dashed outside for a look - it has no flowers at the moment - just and a few buds - I'll add a photo as soon as there's one to be taken!	REPLY

Reply #2 of 8 posted 13 NOV 05 by Anonymous-1352

Kate, If you enter 'Irish Fireflame' in the search field for "Roses", the page for IF will appear. Then, if you click on the "Available At" tab at the top of the page, you will find a list of sponsoring nurseries which carry this rose in their inventory. Smiles, Lyn helpmefind.com	REPLY

Reply #3 of 8 posted 13 NOV 05 by Unregistered Guest

Hi Lyn,

Thanks for your help, I have already looked at the where to find page - but you will notice that all the stockists are located in the United States, and because Australia has the most stringent quarantine restrictions in the world, all the stockists I have contacted thus far are unwilling to go through the hassle of getting it shipped here. Although I am willing to pay the AU$200 plus in custom and inspection fees, people are unwilling to get their stock treated with methyl bromide to send it here.

I thought that by asking Briardale's owners, they may have a recommendation about a grower down under. (The 15 Australian stockists I have emailed have all responded that they do not grow it. However, I suspect that Briardale's version must have come from somewhere.)

kind regards
Kate

Reply #4 of 8 posted 13 NOV 05 by kate

Hi Lyn

Thanks for the advice - I have already looked in the where to find tab, only to find that they are only available in the United States. The quarantine and inspection requirements for bringing plants into Australia is pretty onerous, and the nurseries I have contacted overseas are universally reluctant to take the bother of sending a plant to Australia. [Having to treat the plant with methyl bromide would seem to be a deterrent especially.]

I was hoping that Briardale owner would be able to tell me where they got their plant - as Western Australia is only a plane flight away. The 15 or so local growers I have contacted do not stock it, and most have not even heard of it. I figure if someone HAS heard of it, it may be a step in the right direction to get it locally. [The customs and inspections fees for importing a plant alone would be $200, so it makes financial sense to find a local distributor.]

regards

Kate

Reply #5 of 8 posted 13 NOV 05

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Reply #6 of 8 posted 14 NOV 05 by Unregistered Guest

Kate........ Thank you for checking the site for a nursery that carries your rose. I am sorry we do not have a sponsoring nursery that can help you. Good luck in your search. Smiles, Lyn	REPLY

Reply #7 of 8 posted 14 NOV 05 by Unregistered Guest

Kate, I didn't see where you live, but if you're in the United States, Sequoia Nursery sells four inch pots of Irish Fireflame. I saw it there last month when I last visited them. This came from my plant which I propagated from cuttings Gregg Lowery and Philip Robinson gave me of the old plant in the old Korbel Winery Rose Garden, quite a few years ago. You'll love the rose! I hope you are in the US so you can order from Sequoia. They're a great nursery! Kim

Reply #8 of 8 posted 15 NOV 05 by Amanda_WA

Oops... I think my reply may have been overlooked. Carmel Rose Farm is located at 550 Canning Road, Carmel, Western Australia. Their phone number is: 9293 5350. Regards Amanda Briardale	REPLY

Reply #9 of 8 posted 15 NOV 05 by kate

Thanks very much for that Amanda! I will give them a call. Kate	REPLY