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Domenico 67
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Just bought it online at a German nursery, as it's very difficult to find it in Italy. I bought it in container, and it arrived with a few buds already, obviously slightly stressed from the shipment and with some broken branches (the packing was probably not the best possible). Despite this, it really put out several flowers, which are opening now. I can already say that the flowers look very true to many photos I saw in the internet. They're ruffled in a good captivating way, shallow cup reminiscent of Jacques Cartier, but with somewhat fewer and larger petals... They definitely have a nice, full "ancient rose" character. They're not very large, and this is exactly what I was expecting. The color is close to its "sister clone" Gertrude Jekyll, but perhaps slightly lighter, especially by the 2nd/3rd day. The fragrance is wonderful, it exceeded my expectations, almost pure powerful damask to my nose, and I would say that in my climate it's even slightly outplaying that of its sister clone Gertrude. The foliage is light green, mostly opaque, very Portland in style, but its stems have just a little bit of the balsamic fragrance typical of Portlands and other Old roses. So far, it's completely disease free. For now, I can stay that I'm very satisfied and happy of my purchase (I also bought a Fisherman's Friend and a William Shakespeare 2000 with it, all clones that are being put out of catalogue by Austin roses).
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Just casually found a young (but very vigorously growing and nearly fully blooming) plant of James Oak at a local dealer in downtown Genoa (Italy). I already saw pictures of this new variety, but wasn't nearly as impressed as I was when I saw it in person. Believe me, this rose is an absolute stunner. It's form is like a big, full, perfectly formed rosette, somewhat smaller on certain lateral buds. I'd describe it as a morphing of Charles de Mills and an older Austin rose (Gertrude Jelyll?), or maybe as a giant and fuller Rose de Resht. Never seen such a flower form in an Austin rose before, and all buds has unfolded perfectly so far. Its colour is strongly reminiscent of old Austin's Othello to me, including the yellow insertion of petals, but it beautifully fades to lilac pink on external border, like some old Gallica hybrids. And the fragrance... it would be enough to buy this rose. A very powerful Bourbon smell (Mme Isaac Pereire), with some fine Gallica aroma and some ripe raspberry. Absolutely mouthwatering. At the dealer, I had approached these flowers very skeptically, anticipating a very likely delusion (imagining that it's not possible for such a beautiful rose to have also a beautiful fragrance LOL), expecting a slight unpleasant tea/meaty smell like Pierre de Ronsard or some other modern shrub roses, or at best an almost undetectable rose fragrance... Instead, I put my nose into one of the most powerfully and beautifully fragrant roses I ever smelled! It was already mine. Decision taken in 0,1 sec.
P.S. I'd be not surprised at all if Othello would turn out being in its genealogy.
Update: after about one month and half, it turns out being as beautiful as ever, as powerfully and yummly fragrant as ever, pretty fast to rebloom, and vigorously sprouting from graft zone... but it also turns out being somewhat prone to blackspotting on older foliage (luckily, she gets new leaves in no time). Nobody's perfect.
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Im looking to try a little cross breeding project do you know weather or not this is fertile in pollen or makes hips? and if not which DA are not sterile
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20 MAR 15 by
moriah
If you have one on it's own root, you only need one as the roots spread and shoots come up near by.
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Wow that's good, as I love this cultivar, and just bought one on own roots!
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#3 of 11 posted
10 JUN 23 by
Jay-Jay
It suckers a lot, maybe more than You would like it to do.
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Ok... I'll see if I love this rose enough ahahah
Anyway, this is another very Gallica-like trait. This plant is really like a strongly reblooming Gallica hybrid. Pretty unique in the entire rose world, I think.
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Update: my own roots Rose de Resht is doing unbelievably well, despite being still in a 6 l container. She's suckering and blooming like there's no tomorrow, developing in a thick mass of fragrant foliage and developing flower buds (she had already given a fair number of blooms before). I'm keeping all my new roses well watered and fertilized, and I added some mycorrhizal supplement too.
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#6 of 11 posted
24 JAN by
odinthor
'Rose de Rescht' seems to have been confused in commerce with 'Rose du Roi'. I have had a very healthy own-root 'Rose de Rescht' for decades, and never once has it produced a sucker or runner. This was discussed in another (now-gone) forum of knowledgable old rose experts years ago, and the consensus was that there is a large contingent of supposed 'Rose de Rescht' out there which are actually 'Rose du Roi' specimens, as a large group of people had the "runner version," and an equally large group had the "never any runners version." Unfortunately, none of the posters had both, so a point by point comparison of them was never posted.
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#7 of 11 posted
24 JAN by
Jay-Jay
Which of the photographed or pictured Roses du Roi do You mean? Almost none look like the picture Jonathan Windham posted.
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#8 of 11 posted
24 JAN by
odinthor
My point is in relation to comments on suckers or runners vis-a-vis 'Rose du Rescht' and 'Rose du Roi', not any of the HMF pictures of 'Rose du Roi'.
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#9 of 11 posted
24 JAN by
Jay-Jay
I'm not talking about pictures odinthor. I'm referring to which of those roses de-pictured as Rose du Roi would You like to compare with those depictured as Rose de Rescht as for the habit of suckering? What withholds You from comparing Yourselves? I would be interested in Your outcome.
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I'm told that "Rose de Rescht" in commerce in Australia is now consistently what we think is Joasine Hanet. Which suckers.
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'Joasine Hanet', AKA "Portland from Glendora" in the USA is a tall rosebush. Mine grows to about 5' and I think it gets even taller in warmer climates. I believe 'Rose de Resht' remains at around 3-4'.
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My "Royal Jubilee", which I casually bought as a containr plantin early spring, is now sprouting strongly and giving flowers a little bit more freely. They're beautiful, a loose cup similar to some types of peonies, of a nice silvery pink. Flowers are healthy and nice looking until now, and the fragrance is not the strongest but very good, similar to that of strongly fragrant HT "Baronne E. de Rothschild";... a particular, distint variant of "pure rose" fragrance, which I'm not certain about how to describe.. but still good.
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I have been looking for Royal Jubilee! Can you tell me where you found it? Or would you be willing to sell cuttings? I’m sorry if I shouldn’t be asking this. I’m new to this website. I had a chance to buy Royal Jubilee a few years ago when Covid was causing all the problems but money was too tight because of it so I didn’t. Still kicking myself. Thanks!!
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Member Domenico 67 Is in Italy. You are in the U.S. In the ‘Royal Jubilee’ page, go to BUY FROM (top right), select your COUNTRY - United States, and you could try buying the rose from Garden Valley Ranch in California, or Hummingbird Roses in Michigan.
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Oh my! I am so sorry! I don’t know how I missed that! Thank you for the help. I’m new to this.
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Its a pleasure. Enjoy HelpMeFind - there is a lot to explore.
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