HelpMeFind Roses, Clematis and Peonies
Roses, Clematis and Peonies
and everything gardening related.
Member
Profile
PhotosFavoritesCommentsJournalCuttingsMember
Listings
 
jac123
most recent 8 JAN SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 28 MAY 19 by Magnus95
A few of these roses in a vase will add fragrance to the entire room, its very powerful!

Update: This rose grows like a giant! The tallest cane is approaching 6ft, even after heavy winter pruning. Luckily it grows very upright and doesn't carry the flaw of flopping canes that many older DA roses have.

Update 2: Never seen so many buds on this rose for it's first flush. Seems to respond REALLY well to winter hacking and slashing down to 1-2ft

I think this is one of those roses that would benefit from summer pruning, which I'll try next summer. What seems to happen if left unpruned is that after the first flush, a few disproportionately long, almost naked canes will shoot to the sky, and a bloom or two will eventually spawn on the end. Doesn't exactly make for a pretty shrub but one look at the flowers and I can't imagine being without it.
REPLY
Reply #1 of 8 posted 23 MAR 22 by OGRfairy
I wonder if you’ve tried pinning those long canes with garden staples? Looping them down and pinning them will force those canes to be covered in blooms instead of just at the tip. My Wollerton Old Hall behaves in much the same manner.
REPLY
Reply #2 of 8 posted 24 MAR 22 by Nastarana
Might this be a seedling of 'Evelyn'? The photos and description of scent and growth habit all remind me of 'Evelyn'.
REPLY
Reply #3 of 8 posted 27 MAR 22 by OGRfairy
I was thinking the same. Or perhaps Eglantyne?
REPLY
Reply #4 of 8 posted 28 MAR 22 by Magnus95
It's possible! The latest introduction from DA "Elizabeth" appears to have very similar foliage and flowers and seems to come from this breeding line too. Also thanks for the advice!
REPLY
Reply #6 of 8 posted 1 JUN 22 by OGRfairy
Of course! I’d be so interested to see how she responds to any pegging if you do decide to do that. After looking at your photos of her blooms I may have to try to add her to my collection next year. For some reason I had had it in my mind that she would resemble The Albrighton Rambler, and her blooms would be small and would bleach. The shading you captured in your photos is so lovely and complex with that beautiful hint of mauve.
REPLY
Reply #5 of 8 posted 1 JUN 22 by jac123
per the US patent:
"The maternal and paternal parents of ‘AUSearnshaw’ are two unnamed seedlings. The new rose may be distinguished from its maternal parent, by the following combination of characteristics: the maternal parent is a shorter bush and has uniformly deep pink flowers compared to the soft pink, apricot-centered blooms of ‘AUSearnshaw’. The new rose may be distinguished from its pollen parent, by the following combination of characteristics: the paternal parent has a larger growth and its blooms are more cupped with fewer petals than ‘AUSearnshaw’."

according to this, Evelyn should not be a direct parent, but it could be in the lineage further back. Again, they could state whatever they want in the patent and nobody is going to check, so I guess we can not be sure that what they stated is the real lineage
REPLY
Reply #7 of 8 posted 1 JUN 22 by OGRfairy
This is so interesting; thank you! Recently DAR posted a photo of a rose on Twitter that they have developed specifically for breeding. It was the loveliest form and pale lavender color. I wish they would sell some of their breeding stock, because they are gorgeous in their own right!
REPLY
Reply #8 of 8 posted 8 JAN by Kathy Strong
She is known as Emily Brontosaurus. . .
REPLY
most recent 2 DEC 23 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 2 DEC 23 by jac123
I suspect that there is some vertical blackspot resistance in Vanessa Bell, as it is spotless for many growers and quite susceptible for others, regardless of humidity and heat.

I may partially agree on the single flower not being breathtaking, the average deep cup, but the colour is really unique. White on the outside, yellow on the inside. The scent is quite strong, not especially refined, myrrh and citrus.

The main thing I have to say about Vanessa Bell is that I had never seen a second year own root plant having 120 flowers in its second flush without deadheading.

Its growth and foliage are quite interesting as well, very light and airy, but it needs to be staked after heavy rains
REPLY
Reply #1 of 1 posted 2 DEC 23 by Nastarana
White/yellow bicolor is indeed unique. How does VB look in its' last stages? Does it turn pink or fade to white throughout?
REPLY
most recent 10 JUL 23 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 9 JUL 23 by jac123
I would specify in the description that eyes for you is the small shrub in the background. The plant in the front is definitely not eyes for you
REPLY
Reply #1 of 1 posted 10 JUL 23 by jedmar
You are right, the metal label at the front is misleading.
REPLY
most recent 28 JAN 23 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 26 JAN 23 by jac123
according to the US patent, parentage is KORpriggos x Irish Hope

"The seed parent is Rosa ‘KORPRIGGOS’, U.S. Plant Pat. No. 21,314. The pollen parent is the unpatented Rosa ‘Irish Hope’. The new variety was discovered in June of 2011 by the inventor in a group of seedlings resulting from the 2010 crossing, in a research nursery in Temerin, Serbia"

also, the reported breeder is Biljana Bozanic Tanjga instead of Peter Cox
REPLY
Reply #1 of 3 posted 27 JAN 23 by jedmar
Do you have a patent or application number?
REPLY
Reply #2 of 3 posted 27 JAN 23 by jac123
yes, protection was granted with code USPP34866P2 on December 27th, 2022
REPLY
Reply #3 of 3 posted 28 JAN 23 by jedmar
Thank you, patent information added!
REPLY
© 2025 HelpMeFind.com