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Can anyone advise if this rose is available in Australia please ?
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No gardens or sellers listed, no photos. Not all nurseries list their plants on helpmefind, but I don't think you'll find it.
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Is there an error in the height listed? I believe this is considered a short rose, under 2'.
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#1 of 5 posted
27 JUN 21 by
 jedmar
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While European nurseries give the height of 'Blue for You' as 90-100 cm, in Australia it seems to attain 150-200 cm. Who knows why' Different understock, climate?
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English nurseries list the height as 60-90cm, and that is my experience here, so even smaller!
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#3 of 5 posted
28 JUN 21 by
Plazbo
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I assume mostly just the longer growing season. Middle of winter now (and the winter solstice just the other day so days are technically getting more daylight) and many moderns (and china's and polyantha's) like Blue For You are still sending out the occasional flower.
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Blue for You gets to about four feet in San Diego, growing year round.
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#5 of 5 posted
15 NOV 23 by
Clairose
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Yes in Australia mine reached 2.5 mtr high. Very upright strong growth. Does not like heavy pruning.
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Is ‘P.S. I Love You’ (unknown, Delbard before 2019) an Australian renaming of Delbard’s 1993 ‘Henri Matisse’?
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#1 of 2 posted
3 NOV 23 by
Clairose
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No . Henri Matisse is different
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Thank you for the photo Clairose.
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In a phone call today, Swiss Rose Garden say they did not introduce 'Little Dragon'. They do stock it but know nothing about it or the parentage.
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This has been the biggest surprise purchase for the season, Patricia. The bush, so far, is very upright in classical HT form, however, the foliage has been very healthy and the bush very strong. I wasn't expecting it to be as vigorous or as healthy as it has been. I don't like the plant form... but it might be a worthwhile breeder of healthy striped minis. My plant came from Thomas for Roses.
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Perhaps someone in South Australia could contact Thomas for Roses for more information. Or Laurie Newman may know more about the breeder or date. The first mention to it in the references is 2001.
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Glenyse is trying to find the list of budwood someone gave them (with his name on the list). It included this one, 'Teddy Bear' and several Aus-breds.
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It would be pretty awesome if it turned out to be an Aussie-bred rose. I have used it in one pollination so far to test for fertility. Makes lots of anthers so a little later will be testing it for pollen viability too.
EDIT 2nd Jan. 2014: Does not set hips. Pollen fertile.
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Any progress on this?
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In America, stores will sell a handpainted bicolor mini called "Little Pete", which is in fact one 'Show n' Tell'. Long story short: sometimes roses get lost in the sales machine.
It is not Earthquake, however. It is similar, but Earthquake is a very lazy plant, and so it likes to tumble up then down. This rose here looks more upright.
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Very upright.. like a little typical HT around a foot-and-a-half tall. I did think it might have been 'Earthquake' at some stage. Mine is grafted so is being pushed pretty hard by the root stock. I intend to try and strike cuttings over winter to see what the real habit is like.
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#8 of 9 posted
10 OCT 22 by
Clairose
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Hi Patricia
I do believe Little dragon is a Ralph Moore mini. I do grow a few of his rosses and was doing some research some time ago. After Ralph died a few years back the nursery and stock was abandoned , very sad. probably all housing estates now
Regards Bev Linden in Highfields near Toowoomba
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#9 of 9 posted
10 OCT 22 by
Johno
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While additional Ralph Moore roses were released following his death, I doubt Little Dragon is one of them. This bright little rose could hardly leave unnoticed the US where it appears to be unknown and there are no reports. All HMF photos are from Australians.
Combined Rose List 2022 gives a release date of 2006 and only lists The Swiss Rose Garden Nursery.
The 2001 Rose Annual reference indicates it was grown in Australia well before Ralph's death in 2009.
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