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Initial post 11 SEP by Ericchn
3 awards from 2021 Barcelona trials are missing:

- Most vigorous variety
- Most innovative variety
- Best flower

(I think we shall ignore the 1st “Virtual Rose” award as it was a specific award during the pandemic when some jury members were impossible to come judging)
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Reply #1 of 4 posted 11 SEP by jedmar
The most vigorous variety is listed as the Association of Parks and Gardens Prize.
The Best Flower in 2021 was MR 933.
We have in the past not listed "Accessit" prizes, i.e. a runner up for the prize. Only in 2023 we introduced a generic Barcelona 2nd Prize award. This award category might be deleted in future - there were none accessits in 2024.
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Reply #2 of 4 posted 11 SEP by Ericchn
Ah yes, I ignored the word “accessit”. But still the highest prize - Barcelona prize (variety with the highest score) is missing.
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Reply #3 of 4 posted 12 SEP by jedmar
We had it listed as Special Prize. Added Barcelona to the description.
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Reply #4 of 4 posted yesterday by Ericchn
The Barcelona special prize is still missing.
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Initial post 8 JAN 24 by Mal R
Listing says zone 7b, but Star Roses website lists Bolero from Meilland as hardy in zones 5-10.
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 8 JAN 24 by jedmar
Commercial sites are often very generous about hardiness and limited about height a rose attains. Meilland roses are bred in southern France. For hardiness we try to follow effective usage if possible. In this case we have gardens listed in zones 7a to 11.
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 8 days ago by Ericchn
The Bolero rose on star rose website is Meidelweis: starrosesandplants.com/plants/bolero/
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Initial post 8 days ago by Ericchn
I believe it’s Meidelweis in the photo.
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Initial post 13 days ago by Ericchn
Should be Meiclicel : meilland.com/en/catalogue/purple-perfumella-meiclicel-meilland-jardin-parfum/
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Reply #1 of 7 posted 13 days ago by jedmar
It was at Monza as Medicellie. See:
www.airosa.it/concorso/2005/concorso2005.htm

Also:
www.dreamstime.com/photos-images/rose-meicellie.html

The note for Meiclicel says:
Meilland sells MEIclicel as 'Greffe de Vie' as a garden rose, and 'Purple Perfumella' when a cut rose.

Has Meilland changed the varietal name from 2005 to 2008?
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Reply #2 of 7 posted 13 days ago by Ericchn
Maybe. I shall try contacting Meilland for clarification.
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Reply #3 of 7 posted 13 days ago by jedmar
Can you please also ask about 'Belles Rives'? See this info from 2017:

parfumflowercompany.com/insights/name-change-rose-greffe-de-vie-belles-rives/

We had 'Belles Rives' as a name for MEIzolnil. According to this, it is 'Greffe de Vie' (MEIclicel?)
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Reply #4 of 7 posted 13 days ago by Ericchn
I know about this. The trade mark Belles Rives is used both for Meizolnil (for garden) and for Meiclicel (for cut flowers). Similar to the case of Jeanne Moreau, which is used for Meidiaphaz for the garden and Meicalanq for cut flowers.
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Reply #5 of 7 posted 13 days ago by jedmar
Thank you for the clarification!
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Reply #6 of 7 posted 9 days ago by Alain Meilland
Hi all,

Meicellie is not a varietal name of any Meilland variety. It might be (again) a mistake of a rose trial. Maybe Monza as it is the only reference to this :

www.airosa.it/concorso/2005/concorso2005.htm

For the other website as reference, it is an amateur photographer that might have taken the name in Monza. See all other pictures, he was in Italy at that time.

www.dreamstime.com/xiaoma-latest-stock-photos?pg=2

The PBR has always be only Meiclicel for this variety.

About trademarks :

GREFFE DE VIE (Grafting life) was a charity operation in France done by MEILLAND RICHARDIER with the family of Gregory Lemarchal which died of cystic fibrosis at 23 years old in April 2007.

As the operation stopped, the variety was slowly taken down from production.

But a second life in Kenya as a cut flower came to be, and they choose the trademark Purple PERFUMELLA®.

After this, in 2018, we were developing the concept of Bal Meilland with the 5* hotel Belles Rives in Antibes, France and choosing Meizolnil to be named BELLES RIVES®, we decided to rename also Meiclicel BELLES RIVES®, as the Bal Meilland was mostly an event of cut flower presentation.

yesicannes.com/fr/bal-meilland-belles-rives-la-vie-en-roses-59335

Hope it is clear
Matthias
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Reply #7 of 7 posted 9 days ago by jedmar
Thank you for the clarification. Listings merged.
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