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most recent 23 JUN 21 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 23 JUN 21 by Dusan
Does all rose seeds produce different variation?
If I good understand, all seeds is different then mother, maybe that is less them one percent but it is different?
Does this correct? Thank you.
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Reply #1 of 4 posted 23 JUN 21 by thebig-bear
The simple answer is yes - all seedlings that come from parents that are hybrids themselves (ie all garden varieties) will also be hybrids, and are genetically unique. This is the case even if the mother plant self-pollinated its flowers. Even a seedling that looks identical to the mother to us is in these circumstances a new, distinct rose.

As I understand it, this is what separates the offspring from garden varieties from species roses, which if self-pollinated produce seeds that come true to the parent. So a wild R. Glauca for example, if it self-pollinates will produce offspring that "come true" as more R. Glauca, but if it was pollinated by a different wild species, or a garden variety, then the offspring are new hybrids themselves that are genetically different to the mother (and father) plant.

I hope that answers your question.
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Reply #2 of 4 posted 23 JUN 21 by Dusan
Yes, that is what I ask. Thank you for this answer. Now is all clear.
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Reply #3 of 4 posted 23 JUN 21 by thebig-bear
You're welcome.

May I ask, are you doing some rose breeding?
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Reply #4 of 4 posted 23 JUN 21 by Dusan
Yes, I get first bloom B) and that seed is from open pollinated seed and it is first.

Also I have now 10+ new plants. This 10 new is results from a couple of hundreds seedlings. I need to make more observation on both case.

Last year I don't cross anything because corona, long story...
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Initial post 31 MAY 21 by Dusan
What rose variations is good for maceration, jams, liqueur and similar food products.

Thank you.
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Reply #1 of 6 posted 31 MAY 21 by jedmar
Traditionally it is Rosa damascena or Rosa centifolia, which are only once-blooming in early summer. However, other old garden roses with strong fragrance such as Rose de Resht and Madame Isaac Pereire can also be used. Some people also use repeat-blooming Austin roses, such as Gertrude Jekyll or Graham Thomas. With the latter, it is possible to have yellow-coloured jams. In any case, the roses used should not have been treated with chemicals.
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Reply #2 of 6 posted 31 MAY 21 by scvirginia
I also recall reading that in some Asian countries 'Gruss an Teplitz' is used commercially for making jam.
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Reply #3 of 6 posted 31 MAY 21 by Margaret Furness
Mr Lincoln was used to make a rose vodka in South Australia; it sold very well but the distillery stopped making it, because the rose scent tainted other drinks they were producing. There were plans to import Mr Lincoln petals into China for food products.
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Reply #4 of 6 posted 1 JUN 21 by Dusan
This is good variation list.

One more question. Does all strong fragrant roses can be used for maceration? Or just some keep fragrance?
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Reply #5 of 6 posted 1 JUN 21 by jedmar
I believe so, although I have not tried it. The usual manner with Damask roses, is to pick them early in the morning before 10 am and process immediately. Fragrance gets lost if the petals stay around too long.
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Reply #6 of 6 posted 4 JUN 21 by Dusan
Thank you people a lot!
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Initial post 1 JUN 18 by Kim97056
Can anyone help me Id this rose? It was my great-grandmothers, she was born in 1916. I think it’s 60-70+ years old, and my great grandpa bought it for her as an anniversary gift. It’s been transplanted probably 8-10 times, she moved it to each new house so it was quite important to her.
The rose is grafted.
It has 25 petals.
Beautiful strong fragrance. If the breeze is right, I can smell it on the patio
I’ve had success at getting a cutting to root so now I have two.
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Reply #1 of 8 posted 1 JUN 18 by Robert Neil Rippetoe
Could be, 'Talisman'.
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Reply #2 of 8 posted 1 JUN 18 by Margaret Furness
I wondered about that too, but the Talisman description says "Thornless or almost".
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Reply #3 of 8 posted 1 JUN 18 by Robert Neil Rippetoe
'Talisman' has thorns, (prickles). They are moderately well spaced as compared to many.

You will note, "Thornless or almost", is almost like default setting here at HMF.

I don't know why so many are listed this way but I've noted in most cases it is incorrect.
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Reply #4 of 8 posted 1 JUN 18 by Kim97056
My rose is very lightly thorned.
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Reply #5 of 8 posted 1 JUN 18 by Margaret Furness
I no longer have Talisman, but the prickles on the photo I posted are similar to those on your rose - some almost straight, some slightly down-curved.
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Reply #6 of 8 posted 1 JUN 18 by Robert Neil Rippetoe
I'm fairly certain your rose is, 'Talisman'.

It was very popular, sold far and wide, about the time your GGrandmother would have acquired it.
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Reply #7 of 8 posted 2 JUN 18 by Give me caffeine
Umm, yes. It seems to usually mean "Thornless, or almost, when compared to horribly spiky monsters like Mermaid or Rose primula, and if you are feeling exceptionally charitable".
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Reply #8 of 8 posted 28 JUN 18 by Dusan
It also look's like "Fred Edmunds".

http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.2850.0&tab=36
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Reply #1 of 5 posted 14 JUN 18 by Margaret Furness
An excellent series of photos for identification purposes. (I'm not expert enough to suggest a name.) One question for other readers: does it flower just at this time of the year, or does it repeat?
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Reply #2 of 5 posted 14 JUN 18 by Dusan
It repeat flowering in flushes. First bloom appears in may and now I waiting new series. Thank you.
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Reply #3 of 5 posted 14 JUN 18 by billy teabag
Do you know the approximate age of the plant?
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Reply #4 of 5 posted 14 JUN 18 by Dusan
Must be 20+ years old. I cut she little harder. Also I think it is climber.
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Reply #5 of 5 posted 14 JUN 18 by Patricia Routley
I am sorry, I cannot help, but on your search for its correct name, keep in mind this rose's rounded leaves with very pointed tips - and the fact that it has prickles way up the stem.
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Reply #6 of 5 posted 22 JUN 18 by Dusan
This rose must be introduced before 1995 or older.

I think this can be: Parade (climber, Boerner, 1953)

What you think?
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