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Any interest in speaking with our garden club about roses?
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22 JUL 20 by
cole
Hello! Thanks SO much for reaching out and asking. I am dealing with a family member's health crisis out of town. I am sorry that I don't think I will be able to help in this time, but I appreciate you asking! Warm wishes!
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12 JUL 20 by
cole
Available from - Roses Unlimited https://rosesunlimitedsc.com
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Cole: Nice color and so many blooms on your Ambridge rose... very lovely. What type of potting soil and fertilizer do you use? Since own-root roses differ in soil & fertilizer needs, I always ask before growing them. Thank you.
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18 AUG 17 by
cole
Thanks! I use Purple Cow Organic Potting Mix which is available in Wisconsin mixed in with bark and Magic Mills Rose Mix. I also add several shovel fuels of well rotted cow manure. With my potted roses I change out the potting mix and trim the roots once every three years or so. In the spring I top dress the containers with a layer of good compost and cow manure. Hope this helps!
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Thank you for sharing, that's similar to what I do with pots: I drill tons of holes for drainage (we have heavy rain), I mix in Tomato-Tone fertilizer, then I top the pots with my high-magnesium clay. I pinch off buds to grow the biggest root possible, so they can survive my zone 5a winter when I plant them into the ground (heavy clay mixed with pine-park for aeration). I use SOLUBLE NPK 20-20-20 to force growth from tiny-rooting.
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I bought this potted from Lowe's in 2006 and planted it directly into my garden. It's first year it was a good rose and grew vigorously with very pretty and thick medium green foliage. The blooms had good petal substance, were plentiful and very colorful, and very fragrant for me. It initially seemed to survive it's first winter well, but did suffer some damage from the late spring Big Easter Freeze that occured after most everything had already broken dormancy. The plant is rebounding okay from that freeze, but will be behind all spring and summer as will all the other roses. I will still recommend this rose to my fellow rosarians as I think it is a good rose and they will like to have it in their garden. I think it is going to develop into one of my favorites as well. UPDATE 2010: I have now grown Tahitian Sunset for 4 years and it continues to impress me every year. It has proven to be very sturdy and dependable as it handles winter with no protection and stays free of any disease so far. I have never seen any BS or PM on it at all. The blooms are large, beautifully colored and formed, and plentiful. Big flushes and quick repeat are the norm. My bush gets about 5 1/2' tall each year very quickly and has lots of canes and stems for plenty of blooming. The fragrance is a delicious strong licorice/spice note and is strong the entire life of the bloom. I have tried propagating cuttings and it does very well and grows well on it's own roots! I am going to try it in my hybridyzing this year to see if it is fertile and passes it's good qualities to it's progeny. This is a very good garden rose and exceptional blooms could even be exhibition blooms. I highly recommend it of the 300+ roses I have and think it will make any gardner and/or rosarian very happy to have it in their garden. John
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26 OCT 12 by
Ariel7
John, I am new to this site, but I just love your comments. They are so helpful. Thank you!
I was looking for a soft apricot rose, Tahitian Sunset sounds like a great candidate.
Your Texas neighbor Ariel :)
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26 SEP 15 by
cole
Thanks for all of your info on this rose John - I'm looking to add a fragrant, healthy and hardy HT rose that has apricot coloring. When you have time, would you mind recommending your top 2-3 apricot HT roses that are fragrant? Many thanks!
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Did you ever get a response? I'm also partial to apricot roses and would love some suggestions.
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#4 of 12 posted
11 AUG 17 by
cole
Not yet. I can share some my own favorites that I grow. I really like Ambridge Rose, it's an older David Austin rose. I also like Polka. I've just started growing the Climbing rose "Colette" and also the Climbing Hybrid Tea, "Lady Ashe". All of them are peachy/apricot in color with great fragrance. Hope this helps!
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Cole: Which one in your list has the most dangerous thorns (more likely to stab)? Thanks. Japanese Beetles are the worst this August 2017 and JB are attracted to the fruity scent of orange roses ... I often get stabbed while killing beetles. I compiled a ranking of fragrance of the 11 orange roses I grow (all are own-root, except for Sundowner), also rated them according to water and shade demand, see below link: https://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/l.php?l=3.23414&tab=32
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#6 of 12 posted
14 AUG 17 by
cole
Thanks for the info! The rose with the least amount of thorns that I mentioned is Polka.
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Cole: Thank God your message came just on time to notify Burlington nursery to take out Aloha (Lady Ashe is a sport) and put in Polka. If your message came a few minutes later, my roses would be shipped already and I could not change to Polka. So comments in HMF do help folks to choose what they will be happy with. Many thanks.
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15 AUG 17 by
cole
You're so welcome, happy to help. Polka is a great rose, just be aware that it puts on a lot of green growth and gets huge. This rose will flower more if you train it laterally along a wall or fence to force more blooms. Enjoy!
By the way, I also grow Aloha and it has razor wire level thorns - so you made the right choice!
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I removed 'Polka' many years ago because of the thorns. I thought it was really vicious. The blossom is lovely.
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Thank you, Cole and Robert for the info. My zone 5a winter prunes roses to the crown, so they are quite short & less chance of poking unless it's needle-sharp. I killed Bridal Pink and Lilian Austin: both have sharp-needle thorns. My most favorite rose among my 110 varieties of own-root is Robert Rippetoe's creation, a THORNLESS child of Yves Piaget, very hardy in my zone 5a, heat & drought tolerant, and intensely fragrant, see
https://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/l.php?l=2.60483
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Thanks! I had Ambridge rose in my austin shopping cart for a long time and they didn't have it. Just added two as it's back in stock and I see that this little one loves heat! I've had a thing for Colette ever since I saw her in the Floret Farms flower book. Sadly, it seems she wouldn't be very happy here in zone 10. Glad you get to enjoy her. and thanks for the info on the other roses. Will look into those! Also, not sure if you've tried Just Joey but I grew it here for the first time and it's blooms are outrageous - I find the fragrance to be strong and fresh and the blossoms are enormous. For me it's definitely a keeper.
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I didn't grow Just Joey long enough for it to develop its scent. 1st year plant (grafted-on-Dr.Huey) had zero scent .. I suspect the scent doesn't peak unless it's hot-weather, like Chrysler Imperial. Another factor is grafted-roses can't measure up to own-roots in fragrance. Just Joey got killed by tons of acidic rain & poor drainage, so Just Joey is perfect for hot & dry climate ... blooms are large & nice color.
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