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Initial post 14 JUN 09 by Dorsetmike

Reply #1 of 4 posted 23 JAN 10 by Christine Meile

Sorry, perhaps the label at Mottisfont was wrong placed.
Comtesse de Lacépède is more a white blooming gallica-china-hybride, only a silvery blush is often reported (varied for example perhaps by climate).
see the authors: F. Joyaux (La rose de France, Enzyclopädie der alten Rosen),
S. Verrier (Rosa Gallica), Torben Thim (Historiske Roser)
C. Meile/U. Karl (Alte Rosen - alte Zeiten), Modern Roses 12,
W. Paul (The Rose Garden, 1848), W. R. Prince (Prince's Manual of Roses, 1846)

Reply #2 of 4 posted 23 JAN 10 by HMF supporting member

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Yes, we agree, the deep pink of several of the photos for this rose in inconsistent with the references we have. Can anyone shed some light on this ?	REPLY

Reply #3 of 4 posted 23 JAN 10 by Dorsetmike

I have checked a number of sites, C de L is listed variously as a Gallica, Centifolia and Hybrid China, colours ranging from Lavender pink through blush to white. THe label at Mottesfont, (gardens of the National Collection) states Gallica wih 1840 as the year of origin. Is it possible that more than one rose carries this name? Peter Beales Classic Roses shows it as Gallica and lavender pink.	REPLY

Reply #4 of 4 posted 24 JAN 10 by HMF supporting member

Patricia Routley

The deep lilac pink picture may be that of 'Comtesse Lacepede' (Br. unk., -1835. Lilac Pink. Refer Old Roses -The Master List 2nd ed. p147. or 'Le Comte Lacepede' (Vibert, 1830) Gallica. Syn: 'Comtesse Lacepede' Lilac pink to vinous pink. p347.	REPLY