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2 JAN 09 by
Deb
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Does Dream Weaver get blackspot issues or is it fairly healthy? Does it have alot of thorn's??
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You best bet is to use the garden listing for this plant to find other member gardens in your area growing 'Dream Weaver'. You can use the COMMENTS tab on their member page to contact them directly. The advantage is that we will send them an email alerting them to your post. Good luck and please be sure to share your gardening experiences here.
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Well, I can not relate to the positive experiences posted here. My Dream Weaver is in its fourth year, and it still has done virtually nothing. It survives (is actually in a protected location on the south side of the house), but does not send good climbing canes, has relatively few blooms, and is one of my worst roses for blackspot (is diseased from early in the year). I keep waiting for it to take off.
I actually had two of these at different clients. I have now shovel pruned one of them. The other is mediocre.
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22 DEC 07 by
Unregistered Guest
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I think this rose maybe the same found rose that a few nurseries are selling as "Peggy Martin"-- a New Orleans' rose that survived after being under the waters of Hurricane Katrina.
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23 DEC 07 by
 Cass
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Gosh, it's shocking that no one would have identified Cl. Pinkie. It's a common rose.
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Not really! Cl. Pinkie hasn't been common in 50 years. This is yet another example of how easily even a once very popular cultivar can lose it's identity.
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23 DEC 07 by
Cass
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It's that Annie Hall phenom between you and me, Robert. Fifteen nurseries offer Pinkie, Climbing, and ten of the 15 nurseries are located in the South. Judging by the list of gardens growing it, it's still found in both public and private gardens. I see it in display gardens all the time. It doesn't do much for me, but it is hardly a mysterious variety...if you're paying attention.
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Only rose specialty operations offer it. There's the difference. 'Cl. Pinkie' hasn't been offered by most mass merchandisers to my knowledge, in decades.
It's one of those roses one has to seek out IF you know what you're looking for. It isn't offered at chain stores or even retail nursery locations in container or body bag. How would anyone short of a at least somewhat knowledgeable rosarian know what it is?
'Cl. China Doll' was superior in all respects in my opinion and still is. 'Renae' is another option.
I'm with you regarding 'Cl Pinkie'. I think there are better choices for most climates, especially the South. It was ubiquitous, at one time, but not anymore. We're rose fanatics. Most people aren't.
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2 JAN 09 by
Deb
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I live in Pennsylvania and was looking for a low thorn pink climber. Climbing Pinkie was one of them but now not sure. Why China Doll or Renae?? Renae what?? China Doll is pretty but is it really better then Climbing Pinkie??
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Cl Pinkie flowered nonstop for me (zone 9) and it became "invisible" because of that and because the flowers aren't interesting in shape. In other words, it was boring. Renae has the advantage of having quite a good scent.
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3 JAN 09 by
Cass
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Renae might not be hardy enough for parts of Pennsylvania. Although by the reported breeding it should be okay, I doubt it is very hardy. It manages down to Zone 6, but I'd be interested to here if it can be grown in Zone 5 or below.
I've often wondered how Ralph Moore's Renae traveled to Oz.
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In its second year it has already made it over the top of the large arbor and down the other side. This past spring it was covered in hundreds of blooms. It does continue to bloom all year but there is nothing like its spring flush. Nice scent.
Horrible name but still a great rose!
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2 JAN 09 by
Deb
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Do you live in the south or north? I live in pa and wonder how fast this Social Climber will grow in the first year or two..
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