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Are there several copies of this rose? Who has it? Is it still alive?
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It is still alive and in a few private collections. Possibly in 2025, Burlington Roses will have plants to offer.
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Agree with what you wrote: Often a seedling performs better once it has been propagated, exceeding the original seedling's vigor.
I got Yves seedling 'YVPXCHSL1' (bred by Robert Neil Rippetoe by his crossing Yves Piaget with his thornless Bohemian Rhapsody). Back in 2013, the mother bush produced both light pink and red blooms on the same bush. I was able to grow it from a cutting, and this cutting produces STABLE red blooms, a big improvement over the unstable color of the mother-bush. The mother bush also improved from producing both pink and red blooms in its first 2 years, to ONLY red blooms for the next decade.
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Straw, please choose a name for this rose and I shall post it accordingly.
Thank you, Robert
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It would be "Sandy Hook" since I got the rosehips from you in 2012, that's when my ex-neighbor moved to Sandy Hook, CT. Her 6-year-old daughter got shot along with many 1st-graders. I grieve for that little girl. The girl's older brother was my daughter's playmate. Your Yves seedling or Sandy hook has a baby-powder sweet scent plus a touch of grape juice, like a toddler's sweet scent.
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Please see, "Sandy Hook".
Any further comments to be posted there.
I can make any notes there you desire.
I will update scent as described.
Thank you, Robert
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really astonishing, that there's no lilac or purple rose in the parentage-tree! Where does that coulour come from?!
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I have got a lot of purples from non-purple, but they typically show from very specific backgrounds, and not in this rare ash-y tone, which is more specific to only a few lines of roses. The parents listed don't match those ideas.
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probably comes from treating the seeds with radiation/EMS.... All of them cause mutation, quite common in modern breeding.
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Considering how close the stems, bud clustering type, and foliage are to 'Rhapsody in Blue', I would be more inclined to believe the stated parents are a seed or pollen parent, and not the sole parents.
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does anybody know, if this rose is already in commerce or will be soon?
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You'll have to ask Rogue Valley Roses, since they now have the only stock of this variety.
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Thanks for your answer.
I already asked Rogue Valley a few months ago, don't remember exactly if it was concerning this variety or another purple one. Their answer was that they work with it and try to offer it soon...
Are there now new varieties bred by you added to HMF? Some names sound so new to me...
Anyway, I'd like to buy the repeat blommers in dark purple, dark red an lilac, if they are sold in Europe one day. I hope so...
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At last, Rogue Valley Roses has this in stock.
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Thank you! I've sent them an e-mail right now, if they deliver to germany too. Perhaps a german nursery orders a lot of roses for clients in germany, There were such actions in the past...
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Did you ever get your rose? We will be traveling to Berlin this summer if that makes it possible. I don't know what sorts of rules there are about bringing plant material internationally. If it's feasible I'm happy to help. I don't have this rose yet but it's on my list of things to get and could bring a cutting if laws make that workable.
Joan
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Thank you Joan,
but I think, it is forbidden, just to take cuttings from the US to Europe. You would need several certificats, and they aren't cheap. That's why nurseries from Europe order bigger numbers of plants....
Perhaps a european nursery will import that variety some day.
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14 JAN 21 by
eihblin
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Gosh, I certainly hope that some day it will be available here in Europe,along with Mel's Heritage.
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The Australia patent site states 'Blue for You, was bred in 2001, not 2006:
"‘PEJAMBLU’ was the resultant seedling from the cross between ‘ROGSCRIV’ syn. Natural Beauty (seed parent) and an unnamed seedling (pollen parent) in 2001. "
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Simon, I've altered the date from 2006 to 2001.
We have a pollen parent of [Summer Wine x Scrivbell] and I am reluctant to delete that in favour of .....unnamed seedling.
But I cannot find where we got that parentage from.
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I'm assuming 'Summer Wine' x SCRIVbell = unnamed seedling so all is good.
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Is it possible, that the other Summerwine (breeder: Warriner) is parent of Blue for you?
https://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.39942.1
Looks more like a Bfy-Parent than Summer Wine bred by Kordes...
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Possible, but I doubt it. We have:
Summerwine (hybrid tea, Warriner, 1974)
Summer Wine (climber, Kordes before 1980)
This latter rose received good reviews in England (see the Note and the 1983 reference for it.) and the breeder, James, lived in England.
The Patent mentions Summer Wine (not Summerwine) with unfortunately no code.
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