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Is this rose disease resistant in the humid south? Charleston SC here.
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I bought Blue Skies from a consortium of Texas growers the year before it was officially introduced. It was, including the British import Hulthemias I bought at that time, the most expensive rose I've ever purchased. I HAD to have it because it was supposedly "Ageratum Blue" and was one of Dr. Buck's wonderful roses. Well, it was a Buck rose, but that is where it all stopped. At least in Southern California, where disease has never been that much of a problem, it proved one of the most spectacular disappointments of my rose growing years. I fell for the hype and found a rose which had crown gall; rusted like an old piece of iron; black spotted with a vengence but I never remember it mildewing much. The stems were nonexistant; buds and blooms rather small and the color was nothing to write home about. There are many far better mauve modern roses. My Blue Skies finally died, and will NOT be replaced.
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Thank you for your input on this rose. If it has BS there, it surely will have BS here. Again, thanks.
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#3 of 4 posted
4 SEP 15 by
styrax
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It is interesting to note that Silver Shadows, and Blue Skies are siblings.
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And differs only in petal color. Otherwise, just as weak and diseased a "dawg" in my old climate as the sibling. Imagining either of them in my new "rust and mildew belt" coastal environs, sends extreme shudders through me!
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Great article. Thanks for the baking soda/vinegar tip.
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#1 of 11 posted
30 MAY 09 by
Mylissa
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Thanks, sorry I am late in being gracious... the spray works if you catch it before it takes hold.. otherwise you have to let it drop it's leaves and leaf out again... bummer!
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It's ok....time does indeed fly....have a great day......
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#3 of 11 posted
30 MAY 09 by
Mylissa
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What are some of your favorite roses you grow in NC. It's humid there right? What roses perform best and what are your favorite amendments?
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Some of my favorite roses are:
Old Blush,Butterfly rose, Old Rosemary (rugosa),Blanc Double, The Fairy
Knock Out roses (red, yellow & pink), Westerland, Jude the Obsure, New Dawn etc.
I use for fertilizer alfha (?) meal, bonemeal, epsom salts and cow manure.
What are your favorite roses? Fertilizer?
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#5 of 11 posted
31 MAY 09 by
Mylissa
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I love New Dawn... just planted it last year from a dumpster and it is loaded with buds... I am a zone 5 borderline 4b and I had Old Blush for 2 years and then it bit the dust (rescued it from WalMart and I ask them at that time why they were selling it HERE) ... the China's are not cold hardy but I love Old Blush. I love all the Rugosa's - Hansa (started from a cutting), Blanc Double de Coubert (2 of those) Rugosa Magnifica (similar to Hansa but more double), Wild Spice -(single white clove frag) a zone 6 Rugosa but it's doing great here, so far, Sir Thomas Lipton, FJ Grootendorst, Martin Frobisher, Therese Bugnet, gosh should I stop... I can't... Lovely Fairy (WOW, it's Killer hot pink) The Red Fairy, Old Pink Moss and Old Pink Damask that were rescued from abandon farm sites.
This year I purchased Darlow's Enigma, Marie Bugnet and Belle Povintene from High Country Roses, my favorite online nursery. Actually that's not all of my roses.. I think I have close to 50, last count... I use basically the same ammendments that you do... OH... Who is Old Rosemary and what zone? I have never heard of HER? Is that a nickname or is that HER real name? Love to hear more about that one... Susan Verrier of North Creek Farm in Phippsburg Maine is an author on Rugosas and a nursery owner... She has a website... please, tell me all about Old Rosemary....
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Old Blush does great here in the coastal south zone 8a/8b Old Rosemary is the nickname name of Roseraie De L Hay. One year in the ground and has suckered already! I forgot to mentioned I add compost to my mixture. I also have some carefree roses...sunshine..wonder..delight. My sunshine was loaded with blooms and ready to bloom again. Wonder has a pretty shape but no scent. I have the pink & white Fairy and on order the red Fairy.I've seen North Creek Farm's website but didn'tknow she wrote a book. I haeard I have to be careful of some rugosas because of the hot humid conditions here. I have some noisettes in pots to be planted this fall.
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#7 of 11 posted
31 MAY 09 by
 Cass
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Old Rosemary=Roseraie de l'Hay? I love rose nicknames. I especially like Juan Desprez and can't call it anything else now.
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#9 of 11 posted
31 MAY 09 by
Mylissa
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Actually, I love those nicknames also! You know in different parts of the country, the nicknames can be different for the same plants... It's almost as if the names were passed down from generation to generation!
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#8 of 11 posted
31 MAY 09 by
Mylissa
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I am glad to know Old Rosemary's name because I have actually wanted that rose for a long time. Suzanne Verrier wrote Rosa Rugosa and was published by Firefly in 1999. The book was a gift and how I found out about Susan. I have several books or rose history, which is as intriguing to me as the plant. Of course I have two by Graham Stuart Thomas and my favorite is Cuttings from my Garden. Thomas talks about Nancy Lindsay a cigarette smoking rose treker who rescued roses in Iran and other parts of the world. Another favorite by a Texas author Thomas Christopher is In Search of Lost Roses. They are not boring reads... they are fabulous... Christopher is a hoot!
PS, I like compost too but have more of a tendency to build from the top. It seems that if you mix compost with the type of soil I have it creates a pot that won't drain in areas. I had the problem with the black gumbo in Texas so I learned to build from the top by each year adding another layer. Although Susan V. says that's how she ammends her rose holes and she has clay.
According to Susan, she notes in her book where humidity can cause cancker. The problem here in the Midwest for roses is we are having a bout with Rose Mosaic. At one time the govenment was going to introduce the disease to kill all the naturalized multi-floras but the concern was that it would spread to the other roses. I don't think they cared and did it anyway. I have lost two but the way I look at it is only the strong survive and you build strength with organic ammendments.
OMG-You have to get Lovely Fairy to add to your Fairy collection. She makes Knock Out look like a wallflower.
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Yes, with amendments each area different. When my red fairy rose arrives I will plant it in a pot until the fall. Our weather here is already 90 degrees. Too hot for for early June for us. Does the red fairy reblooom as often as the Knock Outs?
TY for the book titles list. I'll check on those books later.
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#11 of 11 posted
1 JUN 09 by
Mylissa
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It's usually hot here by now but we have had an exceptionally cool spring with nights being in the lower 50s and 70s by daytime and RAIN! This weekend was really the first heat we've had... it was 85 and humid. Rain coming again tonight and tomorrow.
The Red Fairy is quite the bloomer and mine is loaded with buds. Will probably pop this week. This is her third year. Of course with any plant adequate food and moisture is the key. I grow roses in pots also and then plant in the fall.
It was a great morning here. My grandaughter and I meandered the property and she had a handful of roses when we got back to the house. With all the rain we've had the roses are really showing off.
Yes, time to catch up on reading in the dead of winter or when it's so hot you can't breathe... I will be presenting an article to publish on this web soon. It's an essay and taken from a series of columns that I wrote for the county newspaper a few years ago. It's not a "how to" but a "why" if that makes any sense. I haven't submitted anything since 05 so I thought it was time.
Stay cool!
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I Google this rose and found a listing for it at Vintage Garden. Hope this helps
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I have two blue roses here in the hot humid coastal south (zone 8). Both are fairly disease resistant. I water the roses very well, and spray once weekly to control black spot and mildew.
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