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From the photos, it's interesting to notice all the color variations in this rose.
This is a very vigorous and healthy plant for me. Disease-free (in zone 6b, New York) and did I mention that it's vigorous? Climbs easily to 8-10 ft, but the canes are very stiff. Sets many hips.
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Good point about the color variation. I'm considering this plant and need to know if it's my computer display that's making the flower colors look like they vary from apricot-orange to lavender-pink. If I order one what will I get? Please let me know whether yours is apricot or pink or both. In other words do your plant's flower colors tend towards blue-pink or yellow-pink? Thanks, Susan
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#2 of 3 posted
26 MAY 07 by
moyesii
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It's not your computer's fault :) This rose can really produce those two different colors. I think it depends on your climate/weather. I get mostly pink blooms, but I got some apricot blooms last year for the first time.
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Thank you. Bought James Galway as own-root. Very healthy in its 2nd flush. The scent went from light in 1st-flush to STRONG in 2nd flush (as the bush matures). Blooms well in partial shade, 4 hours of morning sun. James as 2nd-year-own-root has a light carnation scent when freshly picked, then ages to a strong old-rose scent & pure heaven to sniff. I would place the quality of scent among the top 10 out of my 110+ own-root roses.
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How fragrant is Eden? I've seen several descriptions in books and at web sites, and every one seems to have a different opinion as to fragrance level. So, I would love to hear from gardeners who have actually grown this rose.
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June 21: Revisited Filoli garden's Eden rose. It was gorgeous and healthy in May. This time the plant was covered with rust spots and looked dreadful. Ironically right next to it was a sign saying "Disease Free". Still haven't purchased a rose for my trellis, and I'm now glad I didn't buy Eden. If Filoli, with all its resources, can't keep this plant healthy, I doubt I could do it. Besides, I don't have afternoon shade, which seems to be important according to a post below. The plant at Filoli was in full sun with no afternoon shade.
Here's the post I wrote in May: Just returned from Filoli gardens in Woodside, CA, where there's a large specimen of Eden in bloom now (late May), and I'm now convinced I want this rose. I put my nose to the test, sniffing several blooms, and could barely detect any fragrance at all. But everything else about this plant is terrific. The sign next to it said it was disease free, and the foliage did look better than most of those in the well-cared for rose garden at Filoli. I think Eden is a spectacular, old fashioned, romantic-looking rose. It's looks make up for the lack of perfume.
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Thanks for the information. I agree that this rose is spectacular, but I'm only judging from photgraphs. I've never seen, nor smelled it, it in anyone's garden. I planted climbing Cecile Brunner in my mother's garden years ago. Any one individual tiny blossom doesn't have much fragrance, but in full bloom, all the mass of flowers together smell like rosy goodness. Maybe Eden could grow up an arch but with two highly fragrant roses at the base on either side to make up for Eden's lack of fragrance. It's something to think about.
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25 JUN 07 by
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The fragrance varies from the time of the day you sniff it. The first 3 mornings of the bloom has the best fragrance. Usually we do not plant this rose at very sunny location to preserve it's delicate colour and fragrance. This rose hates strong wind and can take a little shade. Placing it at least 50cm away from a wall, having morning 5 hours of full sun will be ideal.
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Jpixi, this is good advise. Morning sun, afternoon shade is the way to go.
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I would like to plant Sally Holmes across an arbor over my front gate--an arched, Nantucket arbor, about 10' tall, with the arch spanning 4' by 4'. Will I be able to control this vigorous plant in an area this small? In the pictures, it looks like it wants to take over the world. I'm crazy about the way it looks, though. Just saw one planted on a large estate. It was on an arbor three times the size of mine.
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