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Michael Garhart
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Initial post 3 days ago by GoldBeardThePirate
This rose is impossibly bright and vibrant. Blooms in clusters of rich neon orange in a velvet texture. They don't fade much but do turn more neon red with age before fading at the late end of the bloom. They grow fast and well but will need blackspot protection if you live n a humid place or have odd springs that quickly switch between warm and cool. Flowers are up to 3.5 inches across usually in lovely clusters. A good spring pruning greatly boosts this plants vigor. Potted in Zone 7a and doing well going on 5 years. I spent years looking for one and my first bush was pitiful. Years later I found a seller and bought 5. I love this plant and hope it keeps in collection for generations to come. This rose is stunning and would make a nice hybridizer to get some good oranges.
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Reply #1 of 3 posted 2 days ago by Michael Garhart
If you like it you shoudl check out Salita, which may be related to it. Same eye-bleed red-orange coloration, but bigger, fatter blooms.
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Reply #2 of 3 posted 2 days ago by GoldBeardThePirate
Good Morning
I have an 8ft Salita. Thats a great recommendation, I Absolutely love it. My particular one is a little less neon vibrant at the Brillant but you are correct they are fatter. I have a big collection of orange roses I plan on adding my pics and 2cents on here. Something about that color is just spectacular on a rose for me.
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Reply #3 of 3 posted 2 days ago by Lee H.
You’ll probably also like ‘Ring of Fire’.
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RoseRAWsob
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Initial post 18 AUG 22 by Hamish Cheetham
Suspect it should be McGredy’s Flamenco in the parentage, given timeframes and breeders other use.
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 2 days ago by Michael Garhart
yeah
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Initial post 30 NOV by Michael Garhart
I'm super disappointed. I just winter pruned this rose today, and I pruned off 3/4 of the total stems. This rose has a lot of dieback when it should not. While pruning, I noticed the wood is rather thin. Even the larger stems are a bit bendy. Of the good wood, a raspberry cane borer decided to finish off that entire basal.

This is a problem for growing it in the Pacific NW... The same problem as Ketchup and Mustard.

This is why testing commercial roses ONLY in the Deep South and Desert SW is not the greatest of ideas by these corporations.

They cannot test for these problems, because they are entirely climatic responses by the varieties.
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Reply #1 of 4 posted 7 DEC by StrawChicago heavy clay zone 5
Thank you. You saved me from buying it. I was tempted to get it as own root for my zone 5, but most likely it won't survive my winter if the cane is thin. Stephen Big Purple survived seven winters as own root since its cane is thicker.
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Reply #2 of 4 posted 8 DEC by Michael Garhart
I was very sad about this, because SMB had fat, rounded clusters and nice fragrance, on a rounded plant. All of what I want in a flori.

I have yet to go prune Perfume Factory, another newer one. Neptune does well here so I hope for no problems with PF.

Actually, I have 3 now. A nursery mislabeled one, so I sent it to the farm to grow. Then I liked it so I got one. And then JP sent me Perfume Factory instead of what I ordered lol. Its not a bad rose. I will evaluate its winter wood this month though.
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Reply #3 of 4 posted 8 DEC by StrawChicago heavy clay zone 5
Thank you, I would love to learn the winter hardiness of Perfume Factory, since Neptune died on zone 5 & zone 6 folks. Sweet Madame Blue is listed as 2 to 3 feet tall by 2 feet wide .. and for non-Austin to survive zone 5, they need to be at least 3 feet tall. Big Purple got over 3 feet tall and survived seven zone 5 winters. Austin Young Lycidas is very purple & very fragrant but it died fast for cold zoners. My Young Lycidas was 1 foot tall with super-thin stems, and the plant is smaller than a petunia nearby !! I thought my black clay was bad, until another cold-zoner said her Young Lycidas is also under 1 foot.
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Reply #4 of 4 posted 5 days ago by Michael Garhart
I went to prune my Perfume Factory, and 3 huge canes got raspberry cane borer (a local issue, as this is berry country), which does not discriminate roses. I have even seen them dig into Rosa glutinosa. OUCH! So I will not be able to tell til I make it out to the farm where the other clone is.

Neptune does not get it, however. It can be tender to winter snaps (massive temp drops in late winter/early spring), but the wood is okay versus the cruddy stuff.

I bought 3 new mauves last year, at quite the premium. I have no idea how their wood mature, as they are immature own-roots. Muriel Robin, Simply Gorgeous, and Purple Fragrancia.
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Initial post 29 JUN by Michael Garhart
The color depth seems to be true even in hot weather. I would call it mixed egg yolk colors. After a few days, they age to peach, then pastel peach. Honestly, not too bad of a color shift.

There does seem to be some early flop. As long as it doesn't get massive and there is some lift, it will be acceptable. Health seems fine. Fragrance is in tact. Form is nice, and blooms do look romantic.

So, I think the success of this one will be determined by its mature size and whether or not it drags too much into the ground.
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 8 days ago by smashzen
How does this rose handle hot climate? (central Italy)
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 6 days ago by Michael Garhart
I couldn't tell you. I live in the Pacific Northwest.
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