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RoseShiloh Hill Rose most recent 26 NOV 22 SHOW ALL

Initial post 1 AUG 10 by Louise's Garden

Reply #1 of 6 posted 1 AUG 10 by Karen

Reply #2 of 6 posted 1 AUG 10 by Louise's Garden

Hi Karen - I don't spray my garden and this rose has been fine this summer. I don't have more info but I'm sure if you sent a msg. to Select Roses (listed under "Buy From"), they would be able to tell you more.	REPLY

Reply #3 of 6 posted 1 AUG 10 by HMF supporting member

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Reply #4 of 6 posted 2 AUG 10 by Louise's Garden

Reply #5 of 6 posted 2 AUG 10 by HMF supporting member

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Reply #6 of 6 posted 26 NOV 22 by HMF supporting member

jmile

I love this rose. It is very healthy in my zone 9B no spray garden. It is an easy keeper under our current drought conditions.	REPLY

RoseSharifa Asma ® most recent 30 SEP 19 SHOW ALL

Initial post 5 JUN 09 by Jeff Britt

I planted Sharifa Asma several years ago on the recommendation of several sources. After struggling along for five years, I finally shovel-pruned it. The flowers were nice, though not nearly as fragrant for me as reputed and the buds prone to balling. The growth was spindly, of sub-average vigor and excessively prickly. The leaves, when they weren't plagued with mildew, were a smallish and a bit crimped looking. This is one of only a few Austin roses I have found unsatisfactory (William Morris was a martyr to rust, as was William Shakespeare 2000). It's probably just be the cool and damp climate of San Francisco.

Reply #1 of 11 posted 5 JUN 09 by Karen

I have grown Sharifa Asma also on the strong recommendations of others as a great cutting rose. It never produced many flowers. The leaves were particularly crumpled and sparse. The rose overall had an unhealthy look to it. It did not make the cuts in my zone 5b Lincoln, NE climate. Summers are hot and dry and spring and fall go on forever. In one season or another we should have had weather that suits it. It may just be that a positive word about this rose initially was circulated and it has never been corrected.

Reply #2 of 11 posted 7 JUN 09 by Jeff Britt

I suspect you're right on your last point. It seems that often roses are marketed well and many rose gardeners, anxious to find a great plant, pick up on the virtues touted by the grower and breeder and simply wish the plant to be better than it really is. Just look on HMF at the favorites list -- many of these favorites are really sentimental favorites (e.g. Peace), not favorites based on real garden performance against all comers. Then there are the ARS ratings which put emphasis on exhibition qualities that 99.9% of gardeners don't understand or care about. Those ratings mislead many consumers, in my opinion. But I digress....

Sharifa Asma was cleverly promoted. I fell for it as did many others, I suspect. Alas, it's real merits are only coming out over time as the glow of the promotional literature wears off and the plant's real garden performance revealed. The only opinions that matter to me are those of gardeners and nurseryfolks who tell the unvarnished truth. That's why I value HMF. There's no flim-flammery going on and real experience described. More power to us!

Reply #8 of 11 posted 18 MAY 17 by HMF supporting member

Jay-Jay

I grow 5 specimens of Sharifa Asma on 2 different rootstocks, from two nurseries and they thrive.
The scent is one of the strongest, but a bit too soapy as for my taste.
Survived several winters without dieback and gets pruned every year.
It stands in partial shade in front of the rose-bed. Foliage relatively healthy, not very prone to Blackspot.
Does well in dry heat (but flowers less) as well as in rain, but when rains last too long a period the flowers indeed can ball, but mostly only the outer petals (see some photo's of mine on HMF for this rose). But not as bad as others do.

Reply #3 of 11 posted 18 MAY 17 by StrawChicago heavy clay zone 5

The ones you mentioned: Sharifa Asma, William Shakespeare 2000, and William Morris. I have all 3 as own-roots. It took four years for W.S. 2000, plus fixing the soil 4 times to make it loamy & tons of rain ... before W.S. 2000 produces decent blooms in partial shade. I give up on Sharifa Asma as own-root, won't thrive even in potting soil.

Own-root William Morris is very wimpy in potting soil & then died in my heavy clay through the winter.

Reply #4 of 11 posted 18 MAY 17 by Lavenderlace

I think that you might be right Straw because something is agreeing with her here. I just bought some more! At first, I thought that she was drinking more water at first but that seemed to end quite quickly and now she doesn't seem to like to be too wet.

I wasn't impressed with Heritage in the clay at first, but second year's performance is way better so added a bunch more for for landscaping in clay since they stayed evergreen here. All blooming and seem happy enough.

Reply #5 of 11 posted 18 MAY 17 by StrawChicago heavy clay zone 5

Lavenderlace: Sharifa Asma has Rugosa heritage, which prefers loamy & loose soil. Rugosa is known as "beach rose" for its thriving in sand & drought-tolerant.

Own-root Heritage as evergreen in your zone 8? That's music to my zone 5a .. which means it might be cane-hardy here. Today I looked at Fragrantnutter's fantastic roses in Australia. People don't realize that her roses are grafted on Fortuniana (produce twice more blooms than Dr.Huey-rootstock, and way-more than Multiflora-rootstock, and more vigor than own-root). And people don't realized that part of Australia has tons of rain, which balance out the salt in the manure she's piling up on her sandy soil.

The true test of a rose's vigor lies on its performance as OWN-ROOT, along with specifications of one's soil (clay, loamy, sandy), and soil pH plus amount of rainfall. I truly hope more people will give such details in HMF, since it help cold-zoners like me from losing $$$ roses through -20 F winter. I can't change my winter, but I can change the texture of soil (add a $3 bag of coarse sand), or change the pH level (mix in acidic leaves).

Reply #6 of 11 posted 18 MAY 17 by Lavenderlace

Heritage does shatter faster than is desirable for the vase, IMHO. But for a landscape rose, it's been working out because at least there are never any fried blooms rotting on the cane and they looked nice through winter.	REPLY

Reply #7 of 11 posted 18 MAY 17 by StrawChicago heavy clay zone 5

Sounds great !! That saves time from deadheading. I killed own-root Lilian Austin since it stabbed me with its nasty thorn when I plucked the spent-blooms. The thorns are like long-needles on Lilian Austin. Can thornless Heritage take partial shade? Thanks.	REPLY

Reply #9 of 11 posted 18 MAY 17 by Lavenderlace

Definitely can take shade here. I planted some where they were getting no direct sun at all for a few months, and at best, three. But our shade is quite bright on the light meter. Also have a lot in full sun but I'm using her specifically for tricky locations.	REPLY

Reply #10 of 11 posted 18 MAY 17 by StrawChicago heavy clay zone 5

Reply #11 of 11 posted 30 SEP 19 by StrawChicago heavy clay zone 5

Agree. We have week-long rain (last week of Sept. 2019), zero sun, and Sharifa Asma (in a spot that gets only 3 hours of morning sun) is pumping out 7 buds .. the most ever. It was stingy in full-sun, like 3 buds per flush. So glad I moved it to partial shade.	REPLY

RoseStanwell Perpetual (Spinosissima, Lee before 1821) most recent 22 SEP 19 SHOW ALL

Initial post 18 JAN 09 by Judith C.

Reply #1 of 4 posted 19 JAN 09 by HMF supporting member

Patricia Routley

Reply #2 of 4 posted 19 JAN 09 by Karen

I have grown this rose in a part-sun garden in Lincoln, NE (a hot humid climate that is zone 5/6). There are fifty year old trees throughout my 2/3 acre garden. It is a stretch to say that any of my roses get the required 6 - 8 hours of sunlight. The plant was disease-free and was almost always in bloom. The blooms were gorgeous. It was not a cutting rose so I am not growing it currently. I am keeping it on my list for future use as a landscape rose when space becomes available. I envision it planted on 18" centers in a circular bed all of its own. It would spill over the sides and look like a giant flower pot. Karen

Reply #3 of 4 posted 19 JAN 09 by Judith C.

Reply #4 of 4 posted 22 SEP 19 by ac91z6

I know this is an old comment, but I have a very similar situation and was debating whether or not to try this rose. I'm in northern Missouri, so your experience is really helpful! I think I will be giving 'Stanwell Perpetual' a try now!	REPLY

RoseTahitian Moon most recent 1 JUL 18 SHOW ALL

Initial post 21 JUL 08 by Sarah

I,ve had this rose for 2 years and its done really well.I love the bloom form and the fragrance,the disease resistence is also a plus.The flowers last on the bush longer then some varieties,which is good since there is a limited amount of yellow climbers to choose from.I live in the pacific northwest.	REPLY

Reply #1 of 4 posted 24 JUL 08 by Karen

Reply #2 of 4 posted 25 JUL 08 by serine459

Hi, This flower has a very long life on the plant and in the vase, as it gets older I noticed neat little pink dots along the edges of the flower, I have been very happy with it. The only thing is that I wish it had a little more fragrance.	REPLY

Reply #3 of 4 posted 21 NOV 10 by paul_zone5ct

Reply #4 of 4 posted 1 JUL 18 by HMF supporting member

Michael Garhart

Maybe slightly bigger, but not by much.

You can see this rose from far away easily and it blooms in huge, hanging clusters. The pastel yellow reflects a lot of light back. The plant isn't very stable and needs support, or it will arch up and then down. It does get a little BS on the very lower areas, but it otherwise clean at the local park where I see it often. Seemed unaffected when it went -10F here 2 winters ago.