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Initial post 30 JUN 06 by glenys

Reply #1 of 3 posted 30 JUN 06 by Jody

Hi I am in WA too. Most roses need several hrs of sun but I have Rosa Nutkana that is mostly in shade and thrives. I don't know of any Floribunda or Hybrid Tea that will do well in total shade but you might try any of the rugosas or hybrid rugosa. Does this area get any sun? I have a Hybrid Tea, Pink Peace that only gets morning sun and does very well. Good Luck	REPLY

Reply #2 of 3 posted 6 MAY 07 by Elizabeth's garden

Angel Face is a floribunda that is supposed to be shade tolerant. Chrysler Imperial, Blue Moon, Blue Girl, Swarthmore, Garden Party, and Bourbon are all shade tolerant hybrids.	REPLY

Reply #3 of 3 posted 6 MAY 07 by HMF supporting member

billy teabag

I've found that many roses tolerate part-shade in Perth - they may be a little leggier but some roses definitely appreciate a bit of shade in the hot months. Success depends on 'how much' shade and whether the shade also comes with aggressive hungry and thirsty tree roots.
There are so many varieties to choose from and everyone has their favourites - it's a very personal decision.
Melvilles Rose Nursery in Carmel have a wonderful display garden and knowledgeable staff.
Swiss Rose Nursery and Roworths also. It's worth visiting and seeing how the established plants look in a garden setting.
'Sunlit' is an excellent rose that tolerates a semi-shaded position well. It's one of Alister Clark's Australian bred roses, blooms 12 months of the year in Perth, has beautiful healthy evergreen foliage and hardly any prickles. The bloom colour is an apricot blend. You should be able to get this from Melvilles - if not immediately, then in October.
If you have the space, you may be interested in Tea or China roses which are pretty bullet-proof in Perth and many of them grow happily in a semi-shaded position. I know it's a deviation from your request for HTs and floribundas, but Mlle Cecile Brunner, Perle d'Or and Mme Jules Thibaud are sensational smaller roses - healthy, tough, beautiful and so floriferous in our climate.

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Initial post 13 FEB 07 by Unregistered Guest

Reply #1 of 2 posted 18 FEB 07 by Wendy C

Reply #2 of 2 posted 6 MAY 07 by Elizabeth's garden

Queen Elizabeth and Tiffany are pretty good roses for their hardiness.	REPLY

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Initial post 2 DEC 06 by Honlou

Can any one tell me their favorite deep red rose, peachy -apricot- yellow rose and their favorite bi-color(no hot pinks though) thank you. P.S enjoying this site, it makes my choice easy...thanks H	REPLY

Reply #1 of 7 posted 2 DEC 06 by digger

You didn't mention what kind of roses or your area but I'll try to get the ball rolling. We are in Montana (zone 4/5) and grow mostly hybrid teas, floribundas and minis.

Deep red: Oklahoma - the fragrance alone makes it a favorite for me. Deb isn't a fragrance nut and would say Ingrid Bergman is our best red. Crimson Glory is my favorite red(alltime favorite rose for that matter). Oklahoma and IB are the best performers here.

Apricot: Lucille Ball - hard to find so Deb's favorite apricot, Brandy, would be easier to find.

Bi-color: My favorite (Double Delight) may have a hot pink look sometimes to some. Deb's favorite is Rio Samba and blooms do fade to pink.

Dave

Reply #2 of 7 posted 2 DEC 06 by Wendy C

I'm in zone 6 and tend to enjoy mine in the garden rather than bringing many in. Mr. Lincoln and Ingrid Bergman are my favorite reds for garden and vase. Sunset Celebration and Pat Austin are good peachy-apricot roses..but not much yellow in them. Best of Luck	REPLY

Reply #3 of 7 posted 6 DEC 06 by Honlou

thanks guys for replying!!' Hybrid teas or florabundas are what I was after, great minds must think alike..... Mr Lincoln' is a great rose as is 'Oklahoma' both of which i have...love em! love em!my favorite red at the moment is 'Black Beauty' which is holding up to the heat without fading out, or going to pot-purri on the bush.Best apricot 'Just Joey' of course and 'Brass Band 'what a great evolution of colors !! am also impressed so far with 'Lolita'.Best Bi-color will agree is 'Double Delight ' but also love 'Chandon Rosier'(rich red with white reverse) it's huge !!keep up the suggestions guys and I'll keep finding places to put them.(Now that you've given me some new ones to add to my ever growing list.

Cheers

Reply #4 of 7 posted 6 DEC 06 by digger

If you like Brass Band.... Deb says you have to check out Tuscan Sun. She is nuts about the critter. We have only had it a couple years and TS has been a bloom factory. Have to admit I'm pretty impressed with TS and if it had a strong fragrance, I would be crazy about it too.

I was a fragrant red rose snob for 30+ years. We moved here from Sacramento in 1993. Mr Lincoln got 2 tries here and didn't survive the 1st winter either time. Deep down I am still a red stinker snob and ML will get another try here. Ooops, just got scolded for not mentioning her newer favorite red, Veterans' Honor. VH was pretty good its second season here. I still rate my red stinkers above VH but Deb ignores my rating system. VH isn't what I call a deep red anyway... I'm gonna pay for that when Deb reads this.

Looked up Chandon Rosier and there are no photos. Do you have any you can upload to tease us?

Dave

Reply #5 of 7 posted 10 DEC 06 by Honlou

'Tuscan Sun' looks great ! will fit perfectly into my garden.., thank you for the advice, 'Veteran's Honor 'is a lighter red but that's o.k too sometimes you need a little contrast in the reds to make the individuals stand out...and appreciate their light and shade so to speak.I live in Victoria Australia and at the moment we are in the middle of a long drought so water is scarce and we are having 40 degree days on end.So roses that can really stand up to some punishment are still bloom their heads off are a godsend. check out 'Chandon Rosier' and 'Lolita , I took these photos for you today...the rose in the photo isn't the best picture of it (i suppose it is what you would call a picture of a real rose)as we have been not only battling the aphids but grasshoppers ,ants, caterpillars and ear-wigs .......everything is looking for some kind of moisture which ever way they can get it.......enjoy

cheers for now

Reply #6 of 7 posted 10 DEC 06 by digger

Nice! Thanks for showing us. I hope we are at the end of a drought, 9 years now. Only good thing about it is the water table has dropped so much that we have to dig a long way down for water to be a problem when installing utilities. I would happily deal with problems with water at work to have the groundwater back up at predrought levels. I pressure wash the underside of foliage twice a week and that takes care of most of the aphids. I like squishing them and go through before washing just for the satisfaction. Earwigs... don't want to get started on those misbegotten things. They cause more damage here than any other critter and I laugh when people say they don't cause damage.

Reply #7 of 7 posted 5 MAY 07 by Elizabeth's garden

My favorite deep red roses are Oklahoma and Taboo. Montezuma is a nice coral/peachy rose and sunny delight is a pretty yellow rose.	REPLY