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Hardy Roses most recent 30 JUN 06 SHOW ALL

Initial post 24 FEB 04 by Anonymous-797

Reply #1 of 15 posted 12 MAR 03 by Unregistered Guest

Dr. Brownell produced a number of cold-hardy roses called Sub-Zero Roses. Click on CUSTOM SEARCH. In the Rose Class field, select "Sub-Zero Roses" and then click the SEARCH button. When the list of roses that meet your criteria is displayed, click on a name to go to the page for that rose.	REPLY

Reply #2 of 15 posted 14 APR 03 by Unregistered Guest

Reply #3 of 15 posted 5 JUL 03 by D Mailhiot

Agriculture Canada has helped develope a series of very cold hardy roses. There are quite a few (maybe twenty) ranging from small to very large. They are known as the Explorer roses. So look for Baffin, Frobisher, Hudson etc... if they grow well here in Canada, they will certainly do well a bit further south!	REPLY

Reply #4 of 15 posted 12 MAY 05 by The Kaki

Check out the "Buck" Roses by Dr. Griffith Buck (now deceased), former professor at Iowa State University. they are not in all of the listhings of rose societies, but his daughter is trying to get them recognized. They were bred specifically for colder climates, but I love them in NC. They keep their leaves all winter long here. km	REPLY

Reply #5 of 15 posted 12 JAN 06 by Lenage

Hi! I,m growing a couple of the Explorer series, here in Hamilton, Ontario( zone 5b-6) and they are thriving. "Martin Frobisher", "Jens Munk", "J.P.Connell", - so far. I have a rugosa rose, 'Roserie de L,Hay", which came as a slip all the way from my mum,s ,up in North Bay, Ont. This thing could survive a nuclear war!! It has not only gone on, to run amuk at my mum,s ( it sent shoots everywhere, and self-propigated itself all along her fences...) -but, it,s quickly becoming a beast in my own garden. Griffith Buck, down your way, produced in his time, a lovely rose called" Carefree Beauty"(1977). I had the chance to see it growing at the Niagra Parks Botanical gardens/school, and it,s an amazingly pretty, open shrub, with very fragrant, pink flowers. It has nice hips in the fall as well. This rose might be more readily available to you? Most anything with a rugosa or species background will fare well in the cold with little protection. Good Luck! :D..Lenage.

Reply #6 of 15 posted 13 JUN 06 by NMrose

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Reply #8 of 15 posted 28 JUN 06 by Elizabeth Lee

There are two groups of roses developed by Agriculture Canada, the Explorer roses developed primarily in Ottawa and the Parkland series developed out in Morden Manitoba. I have several Parkland roses and quite a few Explorer roses. Both are extremely hardy for me, I live in Guelph Ontario which is near Toronto, zone 4-ish. I also have some of the Buck roses, I am have to admit that they are not as hardy in my environment as the Explorer and Parkland roses.

Reply #9 of 15 posted 29 JUN 06 by Unregistered Guest

Hi!.. Welll, I,m about to find out all abou tthe Buck roses this coming winter.. I just planted a beautiful one, called " April Moon". I fell totally in love with it, as soon as I saw it.. As a matter of fact, the one Isaw and liked, was the very one the nursery had in one of thier display urns, so to absolutely guarantee I got that very one, I grabbed that display rose up,and bought it. There were so many other lovelies to choose from, I didn,t want to accidently buy the wrong rose..LOL!! 'April Moon' wasn,t listed on the Griffith Buck internet site I found, so, I,m guessing it might be newer one he might have developed before passing away(?). It,s gorgeous! Light, creamy blossoms ( semi-double), with a sweet, almost creamy scent, and the most wonderful bronzy foliage I,ve ever seen on a rose. As a matter of fact, if I didn,t get blossoms this side of the season, I,d be alright with just it,s foliage. ( of course, I am getting blossoms, but I had to mention this foliage..:D..) Anyways, I hope your Buck roses survive ok. I,m in a slightly more agreeable part of the province, so maybe they do better here..(?) ( Hamilton, zone 5b) ..How about wintering yours over ,like you might a hybrid tea rose?? Now that you,ve made this mention about hardiness, I might be tempted to do so, as I reallly like this one alot! ( I bought mine on sale, but still, it was a pretty steep investment I made, for my b-day,as I ,ve read so much about Griffith Buck, but had not been able to find many of his roses here. This year, the nursery went nuts,and brought lots of his roses in, but they were a wee bit expensive..) Well, Good luck, and I hope they work out for you.. BTW,... Which ones do you have growing right now?? Ooh,,, and does anyone out in 'rose land' know of a good book ( with nice, color photos of his roses) that specializes in Griffith Buck the way so many books do about David Austin?? Thanks, Lenage.

Reply #10 of 15 posted 29 JUN 06 by Elizabeth Lee

I had Hi Neighbor, but it did not survive the winter. It showed great promise this spring and then just rapidly went down hill. Wild Ginger and Aunt Honey came through the winter, but they showed a lot of die back on the canes. I have to admit that this has not deterred me from the Buck roses. I went a bit nuts and brought in Folksinger, Prairie Harvest, Prairie Sunrise, Iowa Belle, Earthsong, and Music Maker. But as you suggested I am going to treat them a bit more like HTs than Explorers this fall. Good luck with April Moon.

Reply #11 of 15 posted 29 JUN 06 by Unregistered Guest

Thanks! It sounds like you,ve aquired quite a few of his roses.. They are nice, eh? My space is abit limited now,as I already have ( including my 'April Moon") about 26 roses in between lots of perrenials and bulbs and such. Maybe more.. Yes, I forgot about my other little mini roses, all done up in pots... That makes my collection at around..31, as I have 5 new minis in pots. :D.... Of course, shovelling new beds is a great way to control one,s figure,and make room for more...:D:D:D..Lenage.

Reply #12 of 15 posted 29 JUN 06 by NMrose

Lenage: Try the Buck rose website: www.ag.iastate.edu/centers/cad/rose

Pretty decent website dedicated to Dr Buck and his roses with decent pictures. Also try the Reiman Garden site at Iowa State-they have 75 of Dr. Bucks roses in the garden there with pictures.

www.reimangardens.iastate.edu

Of course there plenty here on this site also.

I have 20 Buck roses here in the High desert of New Mexico, very mild Zone 7 west of Rockies near the Rio Grande river. I had over 40 Buck's when I lived in Iowa. I am an Iowa State grad and was there at the height of Dr. Bucks breeding program in early 70's. The campus had many rose plantings in the Ag area of the campus. As a senior there in 1975 I was forced to take a seminar by Dr. Buck-what a neat presentation on winter hardy roses bred for the upper Midwest(I didn't want to go but wanted to graduate). My mother had a terrible time with roses at home-the budded tea types with winter kill. I approached Dr. Buck about where to find his rose commercially, he stated " I bred them-I don't sell them" that was the problem with him, he was brilliant but not marketing savy, He has passed and now his roses are very popular. He invited me to the green house across from Kildee hall where most of my class where. After 3-4 visits of not finding him there I tried early one morning before a 8:00 AM class. I never made to class that day, he showed me things that we amazing. I pressed him for where to find them and explained my mothers rose problems, he handed me a 4" pot with an "own root" Rose in it. The marker said Earth song. I hadn't planned on going home that weekend but did and Mom planted the rose. It was still blooming last June when I visited there last year. 30 years old and still covered in pink blooms. It grows with no winter protection what so ever. Frankly my brother and sister in law don't pay any attention to it.

That's my Buck story-Favorites are Apple Jack (Dr Buck used this rose as "anti-freeze" in his breeding program),Polonaise(non stop red shrub) Earth Song(my wife's favorite) Honey Sweet(there was bed of these outside Kildee Hall in the mid 70's striking and fragrant), Summer Wind, Prairie Harvest,(tall yellow shrub) and ElCatala. just planted April Moon.

Reply #13 of 15 posted 29 JUN 06 by NMrose

Are you buying and planting own root roses or budded??	REPLY

Reply #14 of 15 posted 29 JUN 06 by Unregistered Guest

Hello, NMrose.... Very cool story about actually meeting Dr. Buck himself... I am pretty sure I bought an 'own root' rose ,as far as my G.B. rose is concerned. I,m not so certain about all my other ones, as I have bought them from all over the place here, at different times, and never really even considered that issue... I,ve been fortunate not to lose the ones I have so far, so, that,s a good thing... I do miss my ' Westerland'... It died on me, a couple of winters ago, but I got at least 2 good seasons out of it. That might be one I replace sometime in the future. Sounds like you,re having fun down there, where you are with your roses.. Do you have issues with water or anything like that? New Mexico... I keep thinking ( maybe incorrectly..) that it has a fairly dry climate there... Lenage.

Reply #15 of 15 posted 30 JUN 06 by NMrose

7" of moisture per year and in the 7 Th year of drought. High desert (Mile high) however we live in the river valley with 10,000 feet Rockies 10 miles to our east. No mildew or rust or fungal problems, fantastic rose climate. I have drip system on everything from fruit trees to my tomatoes to conserve water. We pay $100.00 month for water, very expensive here and getting worse every year. Got our first major rain Tuesday in 8 months, 1" of moisture was nice.

I have 200+ roses, climbers about 20, miniature's, Bucks, a few teas and flourbindas. we don't do much fussing about with our roses. dead head etc but nothing special.

I encourage any one in a cold norther climate to go "own root" budded roses need to much protection. A frozen bud union in your climate is probably the biggest cause of winter kill. i select for own root only now for longevity reasons and cost of replacement.

Good luck

Reply #16 of 15 posted 30 JUN 06 by Unregistered Guest

Well, now that I,m begining to get the idea , as I go along, I will certainly be looking for the 'own root' on any future roses. I,ve read the advantages over and over in my gardening books, but maybe the milder part of our province has made me lazy.. I grew up in -50 centigrade winters and up there, we didn,t focus as much on growing roses.. I was thrilled to find I could grow them so easily where I am now. However, I am learning, that there is, indeed, a winter here , even if it,s milder and wetter. Actually, the milder winter might be part of the problem,as there,s not much, in the way of snow-cover, so, protection is even more important, to keep the freeze-thawing cycles( back and forth) from killing them. ( heaving and wind-rock are also problems..) In late fall, when things do begin to freeze up, some of my roses done up in large pots,are hilled , then, wrapped up, and stored in a protected shed. This method worked very well for me last year, so that, I still have my 'Joseph,s Coat' and 'L.D. Braithewaite' growing, alive and well... Really neat, reading about your own unique climatic conditons down there, NMrose. Happy gardening! Lenage.

*Other most recent 24 MAR 06 SHOW ALL

Initial post 12 JUL 05 by Unregistered Guest

Reply #1 of 3 posted 13 JUL 05 by Wendy C

I'm not sure what shade of purple, they are classified as Mauve..you are looking for. William Shakespeare 2000 might fill the bill, though it is listed as a red. For a source, click on the 'Available at' tab in the upper right. http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/pl.php?n=41142	REPLY

Reply #2 of 3 posted 24 MAR 06 by Lenage

Hi Joseph, An older rose out there, you might like, is one called " Cardinal Richeleu". It,s classified as an old garden rose, but , is a deep purple. I,m not sure about fragrance. ( I don,t have my rose reference book handy..:P..) Alot of people have described this rose as being so 'purple', some are turned off by it. I,ve seen one growing,and thought it was alright. :D.. Lenage.	REPLY

Reply #3 of 3 posted 24 MAR 06 by HMF supporting member

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Take a look at our Advanced Search. There you can search specifically for mauve/purple, strong-scented roses.	REPLY

Caring On Roses most recent 21 FEB 06 SHOW ALL

Initial post 16 AUG 03 by Anonymous-2570

I am new at flower gardening. I live In Ohio. My roses get plenty of sun, and I'm pretty sure that I don't over water them. Toward the end of the season (August) my leaves get spots and turn yellow and fall off. After awhile all I have left are the stems. They come back every year. Does anyone know what this is and what to do for it? Is there a generic solution?	REPLY

Reply #1 of 3 posted 27 OCT 03 by Unregistered Guest

I very new at roses! I've had a garden, flowers, etc... we just moved into a house that has 10 rose plants. good size! i live in a warmer climate, which right now the temp day time is approx. 78-81 degrees. night time cools down quite a bit. just need a few helpful hint on trimming, watering, (well, everything) because we do live in a warmer area, these roses are beautiful. just trying to keep it that way. please help. thank you!!!!!!!1

Reply #2 of 3 posted 5 FEB 06 by Lenage

Hi.. I,m just catching this post now-3yrs later!!- but, oh well, ... I think the problem you,re describing, is something called 'blackspot'. It,s a fungus that can overwinter on the ground and on the plant. Eventually, if it hasn,t already, it can kill the rose, by weakening it. Things I,ve tried and read about, is to make sure you collect as much of the fallen leaves contaminated with it, and dispose of it in the garbage-not your compost-. Mulching,helps prevent the fungus from spraying up onto the leaves when it,s raining or being watered. Spraying the roses affected, in the first of the spring helps too. Use a lime/sulpher dormancy oil spray, just before the leaf buds come out with new growth. Usually, about the time the forsythia is blooming around my area( Hamilton, Ontario) ,which is pretty close to your own area zone-wise.(5-6) . Some people swear by using a mix of baking soda /water/mild soap to spray on the leaves in between rains. Or, even a mix of water and milk. I think ,from my own attempts, those are less affective. In the end, it,s virtually impossible to completely illiminate it,once it,s introduced to your garden. Nearly every garden has it,and it,s very common to roses in particular. Good strong plants and resistant varieties and good hygiene are your best bets in this game. Good luck,and hope it,s not too late for all of this imput! Lenage.

Reply #3 of 3 posted 21 FEB 06 by JMorris271

I think I would spray my roses for Black Spot. There is a good solution out there called Rose Pride. It is a pretty comprehensive spray for rose bushes that takes care of BS.
Fungenex is also good. Its a good idea to use about 3 different types of sprays and rotate them so that your fungus doesn't build up and immunity to the spray you use.
As the year goes by, pick up any leaves that fall onto the ground. They can pass on the fungus to other bushes and your bush later one.
I spay my bed with a Lime Sulphur salution in the fall and the winter to kill any Black Spot spores that are over wintering in my bed.
If you want an organic way to do that , there is a salution of Baking Soda, canola oil and water that you can use to take care of it. I dont have the exact recipe, but you can find it online pretty easy in any organic gardening forum if you like.
Good luck.

Hybrid Teas most recent 8 FEB 06 SHOW ALL

Initial post 2 FEB 06 by Lenage

Hello, I was just wondering if anyone is familiar with a rose called'Painted Moon'? I have ordered one for spring, ( instead of being able to find 'Perfect Moment',which I love the color of..) -and I was wondering what others have thought of this rose? Is it a rose that prefers a warmer climate( like Texas or California) or does it prefer a cooler area, ( like Southern Ontario)? How does it,s coloring compare to 'Perfect Moment'? ( paler,brighter,..?) Does it have any propensity for diseases I should watch for? I,m going to be growing this rose in a very large container, so I can move it about freely. I live in Hamilton, Ontario, about a zone 5-6. Thanks for any imput- Lenage.

Reply #1 of 2 posted 8 FEB 06 by HMF supporting member

The Old Rosarian

Roses that change colour as they age often the colour will depend on the soil and area where they are grown. Both Painted Moon and Perfect Moment are like this. Painted moon was bred by Dickson in Ireland and the other by Kordes in Germany. Both are well respected rosarians so both roses are good ones. Painted Moon does get black spot towards the end of the summer but otherwise it is a healthy rose. I kept my Painted Moon out of the hot afternoon sun as it tended to make the red go to a garich carmine.

Reply #2 of 2 posted 8 FEB 06 by Lenage

Hmmm, Thank you, Old Rosarian... I,ll be looking forward to seeing how this rose performs . It should be ok from most problems with the blackspot then,as it will be in a container, and more easily controlled. Garish Carmine! Cool! LOL..Just think, I could run a wee experiment ... Some blooms in softer light to see what happens to the color, then, later, try it in fuller sun to watch the reds go wild...:D...This spring should be quite exciting , as I,ll be looking forward to growing a quality item! Thanks again! L.