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The roses bred by Ingegnoli Brothers were mainly the early work of Febo Giuseppe Cazzaniga, who was working with his father, the first nurseryman of that firm. The “breeding activity” of Ingegnoli Brothers virtually ceased when Cazzaniga FG started his own nursery.
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#1 of 6 posted
16 NOV 12 by
 jedmar
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Are there any references linking Cazzaniga with the breeding of Ingegnoli roses?
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#2 of 6 posted
16 NOV 12 by
Cà Berta
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The Roseto Botanico Carla Fineschi has one of the roses attributed to Ingegnoli Brothers: Montenevoso. The label clearly states that it was bred by Cazzaniga FG. Apparently Prof. Fineschi, being old and personally knowing the people who made the history of rose hybridization in Italy, knew the name of the true breeder of that rose and, with that label, passed on his knowledge. Unfortunately Montenevoso is the only “Ingegnoli Brothers’” rose in Roseto Fineschi. However there are still people who knew the old breeders and remember the old stories.
I am aware that a personal communication has not the testimonial strength of a proof, still I thought it was worth being reported!
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The Ingegnoli roses were definitely not bred by FG Cazzaniga. They were probably bred by his father Ludovico (not to be confused with the breeder listed by that name who is his Febo Giuseppe's grandson). He joined the nursery during WW1 and this coincides with the beginning of its rose breeding programme. When Ingegnoli's first varieties appeared - starting with 'Commendatore Francesco Ingegnoli' - FG was just finishing school. If anything, the truth is the complete reverse of what my friend Ca' Berta has written: it may be that the first roses presented by FG were from seedlings produced by his father who at that point was still Ingegnoli's breeder.
The dates you give also need some correction.
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#4 of 6 posted
25 MAY 13 by
Cà Berta
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No problem! What matters is the truth!
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#5 of 6 posted
25 MAY 13 by
jedmar
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Do we have any Information when Ludovico Cazzaniga lived?
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Lodovico Cazzaniga was born in 1873 or 1874 at Inzago (Province of Milan). He married Giuseppina Sacchi of Cassano d’Adda in his early twenties and died in 1954/5. This is the information given me by Carla Cazzaniga, the real breeder of the Cazzaniga company (juridically a partnership between herself and her younger brother Claudio) after the death in 1970 of her father Febo Giuseppe.
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The "Enciclopedia Agraria Italiana" (Rome, 1980) contains a quite detailed entry on "Rosa" written by Stelvio Coggiati. In addition to those varieties bred by Fratelli Ingegnoli given by helmefind, he lists 'Aviatore Agello', 'Rachele Molon' and 'Ricordo di Giovanni Spotti' (unfortunately without descriptions or lineage).
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#1 of 4 posted
2 MAR 12 by
Cà Berta
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In HMF a Riccordo di Giovanni Spotti is reported (Riccordo being clearly a typo of Ricordo i.e. Souvenir). Giovanni Spotti was "Direttore dello Stabilimento orticolo dei Fratelli Ingegnoli"
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#2 of 4 posted
4 MAR 12 by
jedmar
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Thank you, missing roses added!
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#3 of 4 posted
4 MAR 12 by
Cà Berta
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I added a reference (see Aviatore Agello) where other roses bred by Fratelli Ingegnoli are reported (Trento). Can you add also this rose?
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#4 of 4 posted
2 FEB 13 by
Cà Berta
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Descriptions are reported in Catalogo Fratelli Ingegnoli, 1943 (see references)
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