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17 MAR 18 by
Vesfl
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A few days ago I was again on a brief visit to New Orleans and visited this garden. I've met the curator and would ask you to please add his name to the information about this public garden:
Mr. Leo Watermeier, the curator of the Louis Armstrong Park Rose Garden, New Orleans
I'm not sure if you need the reference, but in case you do, he is affiliated with the New Orleans Old Garden Rose Society.
Also, if you kindly please add a few more roses to the plants grown in this park:
Comtesse Riza du Parc (tea, 1876)
Gloire de Dijon ((tea-noisette, 1850)
Madame Laurette Messimy (china, 1887)
Maréchal Niel (tea-noisette, 1864)
Rêve d'Or (tea-noisette, 1869)
Souvenir d’un Ami (tea, 1846)
I've posted the photos of most of these as well as others from my last trip this month. Thank you in advance.
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Aha - I recall meeting Mr. Watermeier at the 2010 Heritage Roses in Australia conference in Brisbane and there is a rather nice photograph of him in the HelpMeFind file for "Carlsruhe Cemetery Maria Bruhn".
His name is now added as Curator, and I have added those roses.
Many thanks Vesfi
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Also in the Devoniensis file, another photo taken at Carlsruhe cemetery.
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#3 of 3 posted
17 MAR 18 by
Vesfl
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Patricia, when I met Mr. Watermeier earlier this month, he spoke very fondly about his fellow Australian rosarians and also highly recommended an Australian book about tea roses. He is a wonderful and generous gentleman with an amazing knowledge about roses.
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6 NOV 17 by
Vesfl
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On my second visit, I had a chance to spend more time in other areas of this rose garden and saw these roses as well:
Teas:
Alliance Franco-Russe 1899
Captain Philip Green 1899
Comtesse Festectics Hamilton 1897
General Gallieni 1899
General Schablikin 1878
Madame Antoine Mari 1901
Madame Wagram 1894
Marie d’Orleans 1883
Mrs. Foley-Hobbs 1910
Niles Cochet 1906
Rainbow 1891
Rubens 1859
Creekside Manor Tea (found)
McClinton Tea (found)
Thomasville Old Gold (found)
China:
Arethusa 1903
Bengale Centeffeuilles 1804
Madame Laurette Messimy 1887
Carnation (Bermuda found)
Emmie Gray (Bermuda found)
St. David (Bermuda found)
White Pearl in Red Dragon’s Mouth (found)
Hybrid Musks:
Bubble Bath 1980
Eva 1933
Mozart 1937
Polyanthas:
Daphne 1912
Moonlight 1913
Pink Prosperity 1931
Prosperity 1919
Vanity 1920
Please feel free to add them to their list of grown plants. Thank you.
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#1 of 1 posted
6 NOV 17 by
 jedmar
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Thank you very much! This is very useful Information.
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16 AUG 17 by
Vesfl
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I recently visited the Louis Armstrong Park Rose Garden and it's absolutely gorgeous with many classic and also rare antique roses. This is not a complete list of all roses grown in this garden, though it includes a good number of them (68). Each of these shrubs in the Park is marked with the rose name, class, and introduction/discovery year (or 'found'). Listed here by class in chronological order.
Species:
Rosa moschata (Single musk) c. 1540
Teas:
Bon Silene 1837
Safrano 1839
Le Pactole 1840 Y
Duchesse de Brabant 1857
General Tartas 1860
Isabella Sprunt 1865
Marie van Houtte 1871
Madame Lambard 1878
Mlle. Franziska Kruger 1880
Souvenir de Germain de St. Pierre 1882
Madame de Watteville 1883
Dr. Grill 1886
Souvenir de Victor Hugo 1886
Souvenir de Francois Gaulain 1889
Monsieur Tillier 1891
Maman Cochet 1893
Gilbert Nabonnand 1897
Madame Berkeley 1898
Souvenir de Pierre Notting 1902
Blumenschmidt 1906
White Maman Cochet 1907
Lady Hillingdon 1910
Cl. Lady Hillingdon 1917
Georgetown Tea (found)
Noisettes:
Champney’s Pink Cluster 1802
Blush Noisette 1817
Bougainville 1822
Labiche 1832
Fellemberg 1835
Bouquet Tout Fait pre-1836
Duchesse de Grammont pre-1838
Multiflore de Vaumarcus 1875
Narrow Water 1883
Madame Carnot 1889
Mary Washington pre-1900
Fewell’s Noisette (found)
Haynesville Pink Cluster (found)
La Nymphe (found)
Mrs. Wood’s Lavender Pink Noisette (found)
Natchitoches Noisette (found)
Ruth’s Pink Musk (found)
Tutta’s Pink Noisette (found)
Chinas:
Old Blush 1790
Slater’s Crimson China 1790
Le Vesuve 1825
Louis Philippe 1834
Cramoisi Superior 1835
Archduke Charles pre-1840
Ducher 1869
Mutabalis pre-1894
Spice (Bermuda found)
Martha Gonzalez (found)
Hybrid Musks:
Trier 1904
Daybreak 1909
Excellenz von Schubert 1909
Kathleen 1922
Penelope 1924
Cornelia 1925
Bishop Darlington 1926
Gartendirektor Otto Linne 1934
Belinda 1936
Ballerina 1937
Sangerhausen 1938
Erfrut 1939
Buff Beauty 1939
Lavender Lassie 1960
Polyanthas:
Mlle. Cecile Brunner 1881
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Roses added. Would you please check I have added them correctly please.
I was unable to add R. Moschata, but the database accepted 'Single Musk. (Admin?)
I cannot see a listing for "Ruth's Pink Musk". Can someone else help with this rose please?
It is really great that you took the time to do this listing Vesfl. If you note anything else added, or deleted, over the years, please just put another comment on and we'll update it all.
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18 AUG 17 by
Vesfl
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I looked at all added roses and you did a terrific job! Thank you.
There is only one rose for which I would ask you to please change the link. The Armstrong Park rose garden has 'Labiche' (or 'La Biche'), a noisette from 1832, whereas the link points to the cultivar of the same name but it's a tea introduced in 1851. I found their noisette variety in your database at this link:
http://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/l.php?l=2.3665
I am not familiar with Ruth's Pink Musk except that I saw it listed in the Monticello's garden as well, where it was described as found by Ruth Knopf (a well-known rosarian) in Charlottesville, SC.
I plan to visit New Orleans and this beautiful garden again in the fall. I will add more photos at that time because most roses should be in full bloom and then they can be shown at their best.
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La Biche corrected.
We do have "Miss Ruth" listed. Might that be "Ruth's Pink Musk"?
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18 AUG 17 by
Vesfl
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I don't believe that it's the same found rose because, in their old catalogue, Vintage Gardens listed them separately as two different noisettes: describing "Miss Ruth" as a seedling found in Vintage Gardens in 2005 and named after Ruth Knopf to honor her, while crediting Ruth Knopf herself for finding "Ruth's Pink Musk".
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Excellent. You have given us a reference. (I should have looked for it myself but no time yesterday). "Ruth's Pink Musk" now added to HelpMeFind and the Louis Armstrong Park listing.
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