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Belvedere  rose photo courtesy of member Hof Pallenhoven
Discussion id : 55-183
most recent 17 JUN 11 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 16 JUN 11 by Calif Sue
Gorgeous photo but I am confused by the description which says it's a dark red bloom. The parents are also red.
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Reply #1 of 11 posted 16 JUN 11 by Hof Palllenhoven
colours changing by folowering periode.
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Reply #2 of 11 posted 16 JUN 11 by Jay-Jay
This rose looks like Sunrise (Freisinger Morgenrote) to me. of which You also uploaded some pictures.
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Reply #3 of 11 posted 16 JUN 11 by Hof Palllenhoven
Dont think I've uploaded a pictures of a rose with the name sunrise..
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Reply #8 of 11 posted 16 JUN 11 by Jay-Jay
I meant Calif Sue, she uploaded those pictures.
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Reply #4 of 11 posted 16 JUN 11 by Calif Sue
Yes Jay-Jay, I agree, this particular image does look like Freisinger Morgenrote but some of the other photos show a fuller petaled bloom which FM does not have. Hopefully we'll be able to get an ID confirmation soon because it is a beautiful rose!
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Reply #5 of 11 posted 16 JUN 11 by RoseBlush
Sue,

I am only guessing the identity of the rose because I have not grown it, but I think the photo should have been uploaded the the 'Belvedere' shrub by Tantau, introduced by Rosen Tantau in 2002 which is described in MR 12 as orange-pink. Yes, it's a beautiful photo. What do you think ?

Smiles,
Lyn
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Reply #7 of 11 posted 16 JUN 11 by Jay-Jay
Lyn, we had the same guess!
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Reply #9 of 11 posted 16 JUN 11 by jedmar
Yes, these should be moved to Tantau's Belvedere.
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Reply #10 of 11 posted 16 JUN 11 by RoseBlush
Jedmar,

I have written to Hof for permission to reassign the photos.

Smiles,
Lyn
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Reply #11 of 11 posted 17 JUN 11 by Calif Sue
Ah ha, mystery solved!
Of course if there were restrictions on using the same name more than once, there kind of errors would not happen, oh well.
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Reply #6 of 11 posted 16 JUN 11 by Jay-Jay
I think that I found the solution of the mystery:
That Hof Pallenhoven or anonymous-815488 uploaded photo's for Belvedere and not Belvédère: see picture: http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.41661.0 and the description.
As You say Calif Sue a beautifull rose, fuller petalled and when it is healthier than Sunrise/Freisinger Morgenrote; one rose to recommend!!!
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