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"Bermuda's Kathleen" rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 123-009
most recent 20 AUG 20 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 19 AUG 20 by mmanners
I notice on the main page for Bermuda Kathleen that it is listed as a "Medium red shrub," and then lower down "Red. Mild Fragrance..."

I've never seen it in a color that I'd call "red." It starts out creamy white, then deepens through shades of pale-medium pink, sometimes with some lavender involved. While it may, in some weather, become quite a deep pink, I don't think "red" would be appropriate. I'd suggest changing this part of the description.
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 20 AUG 20 by Patricia Routley
The ARS (American Rose Society) apparently called it a “medium red shrub”.
We’ve changed the HelpMeFind description to “cream-white, ages to deep pink”. Thank you Malcolm.
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Discussion id : 109-304
most recent 15 MAR 18 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 15 MAR 18 by mmanners
I'm wondering about the evidence that this rose is a seedling of 'Mutabilis'. The references here seem to indicate that it is clearly not a sport, and that it "may" be a seedling, "seems to be related," "may be a hybrid," etc. So I'm wondering -- what is the real evidence that it *is* a direct seedling of 'Mutabilis', as the main page indicates? That should be a very easy thing to check via DNA (and we may do it if it has not been done already), but I'm wondering if perhaps it has been done, and the references here are just not being totally clear on the issue.
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 15 MAR 18 by Patricia Routley
.....what is the real evidence that it *is* a direct seedling of 'Mutabilis', as the main page indicates.
The main page also indicates: "Parentage uncertain, see References". Unfortunately the database never did run to "may be, might be, possibly, seems like....". We have the choice to list the parentage, or to leave it out. What do you suggest we do?

......and the references here are just not being totally clear on the issue.
Are you talking about the references, or authors?
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Discussion id : 35-329
most recent 5 APR 09 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 5 APR 09 by John Hook
Why is this listed as a Hybrid Musk?
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 5 APR 09 by jedmar
The reference says it is "not" a Hybrid musk; the classification needs to be changed.
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