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'Artemis ®' rose Reviews & Comments
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I was very impressed by this rose in online videos and here the fragrance is rated as 'very strong' but Tantau who sell the rose only give it a 2star for fragrance ?
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My Artemis is in its fourth year, three years cut down very low for good branching. It has sun from about 1 p.m. until evening - its head can see the sky, the shade comes from a house.
For me there is scent, but I really have to put my nose right into the bud. (comparison : the scent intenstity would be the same as for Garden of Roses / Joie de vivre; whereas other roses for me have strong scent: e. g. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe / Pure Poetry; Stephens‘ Big Purple; Munstead Wood, Scepter’d Isle; …)
(The colour for me is creamwhite with a mixture of yellow (like the yellow colour of an artifical vanilla custard). Especially the closed buds and the inner of an opened flower show that yellowish / vanilla colour. So this vanilla - cream - white is seen from bud to flower until it shatters.)
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12 MAY 22 by
jac123
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An application to patent TANsimetra has been filed in Germany in december 1999 and in 2000 in the EU, while another application for TAN04220 has been filed in 2011. It appears that the two names refer to different varieties, then (even though I've seen Artemis being associated to both of them)
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#1 of 3 posted
13 MAY 22 by
 jedmar
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TWith ten years between the the two applications, this is probably a case of recycling of the 'Artemis' name. We will check. Do you have the file numbers and dates of the various filings?
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#2 of 3 posted
13 MAY 22 by
jac123
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Thank you!
the EU application number for TANsimetra is 20002005 (20/12/2000) and it was granted with the code 7948 (16/07/2001)
TAN04220's application number is 20090673 (14/04/2009), granted with the code 29441 (15/06/2011)
I've just checked on Tantau's website and, even though they don't display the variety name on the "marketing section&amp", if you scroll down to the bottom part of the website (the part with terms&conditions and stuff like that) they have a section with all the plant breeder's rights they hold. Under the name Artemis they show this list in German:
D.Marke Nr. 399 80 342 I.Marke 739 682
Sortenbezeichnung: Tansimetra
Sortenschutz in: EU
Sortenbezeichnung: Tan04220
Sortenschutz in: Südafrika
I think that they mean that they protected the variety as Tansimetra in the EU and as Tan04220 in South Africa, yet they have a plant variety patented as Tan04220 in the EU; moreover, the european patent for Tansimetra was surrendered in 2013 and is therefore expired, so they wouldn't hold rights on it anymore.
I will try to contact Tantau and see if they are willing to clarify the situation
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#3 of 3 posted
13 MAY 22 by
jedmar
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Based on this information, there must be two distinct 'Artemis': Tan04220 denotes that this rose was bred/selected in 2004. Patent application in 2009 fits on the time line.
Tansimetra, on the other hand, must have been bred before 2000. The surrendering of its patent in 2013 indicates that it was replaced by the newer version, at least for South Africa.
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1 APR 22 by
jac123
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Artemis is a nice and compact floribunda-style shrub. It produces quite frequently medium clusters of pure white rosettes, without any pink or yellow shadings. Blooms withstand wet weather quite well, but they do get smaller and slightly less double in the heat, but they're still quite attracting. Foliage is abundant, glossy, with relatively short internodes. It needs deadheading for proper rebloom, since small red-tinged hips follow each bloom (not decorative enough to keep them as a winter ornament, imo). Low/average thorniness. I have not tested it as a cut flower, but I guess it would perform decently. Fragrance is strong; it smells like pure aniseseed, really high-quality in my opininon.
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