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'Rosa x belgradensis Pančić synonym' rose Reviews & Comments
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Would the following link from the University of Vermont be acceptable to change the hardiness zone from 6 to 3? Thank you.
http://pss.uvm.edu/pss123/rosa.html
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I really don't know. I think there are different forms of canina. However, I have added the reference and changed the zone from 6b to 3b and hope that is OK.
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Thank you Patricia. I think the reference is regarding R. canina directly. Is there more than one form of R. canina?
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It's highly variable for a species, because it's a bird attractant that naturizes easily in many environments.
IIRC, one study noted that Rosa canina and rubiginosa tested were highly variable in their ability to pass on downy and powdery mildew resistances, from completely absent to beyond the norm for species.
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With the help of birds and suckering, Rosa canina has naturalised in some of the more arid parts of southern New Zealand, and it covers some quite large tracts of marginal land. Up until perhaps thirty years ago, a local manufacturing company sought to buy the ripe hips of this rose from the public, for the purpose of making a syrup rich in vitamin C that was popular for bottle-feeding to babies. As a child in the 1950s I earned pocket money by picking the hips and sending them off to the city for this purpose.
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#1 of 8 posted
17 DEC 11 by
Tessie
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What a fascinating story. Thanks for sharing.
A beautiful rose with healthful benefits. I wonder what that syrup tasted like? I've been trying the hips on some of my roses. My favorite so far is R. spinosissima, but I have a form of dog rose, R. uncinella, and I'm looking forward to sampling the hips next year. Perhaps even experimenting with making rose hip tea.
Melissa
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#2 of 8 posted
17 DEC 11 by
Tomartyr
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Sorry I can't help with a description of the flavour, Melissa. I'm sure I have tasted it, but my recall doesn't go back as far as bottle-feeding days!
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#3 of 8 posted
17 DEC 11 by
 Jay-Jay
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The syrup is still commercially sold in The Netherlands under the name Roosvicee.
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My mother wrecked my infant teeth with rose hip syrup and black currant syrup which in the late 1960's and early 1970's were recommended for newborns as health foods.
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Dear Tomartyr,
I have a feeling that it is not R. canina (Dog Rose) that has naturalised in the south island, but R. eglanteria (sweet Briar) that has gone feral. I don't really know how to tell the difference between the two, apart from the distinctive apple perfume from the leaves of R. eglanteria when the air is moist.
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#5 of 8 posted
18 DEC 11 by
Tomartyr
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Having had a quick tour of the internet via Google, I think you may well be right, Patricia. There does seem to be a great deal of confusion between the two, though. When googling for images of R. canina, I found a photo of the thorns, which were quite different from the thorns on R. eglanteria (or R. rubiginosa 'Eglantera' as it seems may be be more correct). Also, I note on HMF that an alternative name for R. eglantera is 'Te Mihanere', which is unmistakably a Maori language name, suggesting the species has been endemic in New Zealand for a long time. Also, I have often heard our NZ plant referred to as 'sweet briar'. On the other hand, I've never noticed an apple fragrance, even though I grew up with these plants around. On balance, I think it is most likely R. eglanteria.
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Yes, how interesting. We second the thanks for sharing with the HMF community
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Say Te Mihanere with extra letters... The missionary. They brought it with them. Epidemic, not endemic...
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R. canina (itburni, kelik; Javānšir, p. 155), dog rose; an erect (1-4 m high) or repent shrub with pink or white flowers, each 35-45 mm in diameter, solitary or corymbose, widely distributed in Persia; habitat: Azerbaijan, Gilān, Māzandarān, Gorgān, Semnān, Khorasan, Kurdistan, Lorestān, Kohgiluya and Boir Aḥmad, Hamadān, Isfahan, Tehran, Fārs (Ḵātamsāz, pp. 63, 65); also reported from Ṭāleš (Lankarān), Iraqi Kurdistan, Afghanistan, Turkmenistan (Zieliński, pp. 22-24).
http://www.iranicaonline.org/articles/gol
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How easy is the dog rose to grow from seed?
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#1 of 9 posted
28 FEB 06 by
Wendy C
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Roses aren't like pansies. They produce seed but each seed is it's own rose. Roses are propagated by cuttings..either grafting, budding or rooting them.
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Since the dog rose is a species rose, not a hybrid, I was under the impression that it could be grown from seed and remain true to the parent. Am I wrong in this assumption?
Anyway, I took the chance and am trying to grow from seed. Germination time takes 30 to 60 days so I guess I'll discover the truth this summer if I'm lucky.
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I have the dog rose growing wild where I live and the birds will tell you that they are very easy to grow from seed. I would agree with the birds as they have planted many seeds in my garden. Do be warned that this rose suckers madly and has a very short bloom period.
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Thanks for the warning. I planted the seed along a chain link fence at the back of our property where there is plenty of room to grow. Unfortunately, I didn't think about the birds and their propensity for re-seeding. Ummmm, I may re-think whether I want this rose or not. I was hoping to add a species rose for interest, but this may not be the one I should have selected.
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Hi! I can't find this rose to purchase anywhere and I would be happy to pay for some seeds or cuttings. I want this rose more for it's hips than anything! I plan to make tea and good vitamin C packed things to eat.
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For the record, this rose is bird-spread so readily it has become a declared weed in South Australia and I think also in New Zealand. I have a vague memory that its seeds may not sprout till the second year. But it's the same as Punch's advice to those about to marry: don't.
Rugosas and spinosissimas are good for hips, but again, if you are thinking of growing them on their own roots; don't. They sucker like mad.
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Margaret,. thank you so much for your tender advice. BUT! I WANT this rose! Nobody has it here and there are no birds spreading it. It would be a gift if they did. It is reputed to have the best tasting hips on the earth, and therefore, my quest exists!
Let it sucker!! I'll just plant more of it!
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Just click the BUY FROM tab on the rose page. The rose is probably sold under one of it's synonyms rather than by the name of 'Dog Rose'. Most likely is 'R. canina'
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I tried the buy tab. For $50 bucks including shipping I could get a weed that birds freely drop? Send me the bird!! Sorry, it just seems so silly that these places are selling a weed for so much cash.
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